No sound in ogm file

[roy]

Last time I want to create ogm with audio ogg. But after muxing I can't hear audio. I checked in properties in wmp6 and saw that filters for ogg are there. But there was no sound. Where is the problem.

[Koepi]

The problem is that you have your first forum rules violation done now.

You're too lazy to scroll down 5 lines this page to see that your problem has been talked about a million times?

(hint: there's an "Add" button in OggMux... and a "Search"-Button for the lazy ones on the top of this page...)
(hint2: OGG is a container format. Vorbis is an audio codec.)

Very annoyed,
Koepi

[roy]

Sorry but I have read this post.

I muxed avi and ogg using your newest version OggMux, I know that I have to click "Add" button. The ogm file contains video and audio. When I play it in windows media player 6.4 and go to Properies, I can see in filters Ogg filter for audio, that is showing me 2 channel audio playing. The same was before when I want to have 5-channel ogg. But I still dont hear audio. Everything else is played ok, no problem, only with ogm files.

And I have installed latest OggDS filters. :)

[ChristianHJW]

Roy, can you please use Graphedit to render the final .ogm file and see if this one is playing with sound if you press the 'play' button ? If not, try to create a snapshot from the filtergraph from your desktop ( low resolution and file size please ) and paste it here .. i will acknowledge it and we all will have a look ...

And i officially confirm there is no violation of forum rules in your case, if you read the threads and have pressed the 'add' button :D .. so you got a white shirt again ;) ..

BTW : i assume your sound file is Vorbis audio, not MP3 or anything else ?

[Koepi]

Still a dark grey t-shirt because of the lack of information given :P

;)

SCNR,
Koepi

[Peters]

@Roy

I got a pb too since 0.9.8.7 Ogg DS Filter.

If i mux 2 ogg streams(with graphedit or Oggmux) WMP 6.4 don't play at all.

I solve this switching to the 2nd audio stream an then all is ok and i can switch back to the first audio stream..

This pb don't exist with 0.9.8.6 ogg DS version.
(tested on 2 computers, one with W2k, the other with WinXP, Directx 8.1)

[Koepi]

Very strange, no such errors here at all...

Maybe you should really check your setups.

(I'm using win2k sp2, latest nvidia drivers for VGA, latest btwincap drivers for tvcard, latest via 4-in-1 for via chipset,... well, and I have a development setup of course, but this should make things work harder [e.g. VBR mp3 in avi doesn't work at all with this setup])

Please try a clean system and start over ;)

Best regards,
Koepi

[Charlieds]

@Peters
Try unchecking the checkbox "Always enable all streams", as stated in this thread:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22233

[Peters]

@Charlieds

Yes, that's exactly the pb and the solution too..

Thank's
:)

[Charlieds]

Now, the next question should be "why?" :D

[roy]

Ones more I have tried to make ogm file, but there was no sound once again. I made ogg file using OggMachine because Head every time have writing error to destiantion file. I have installed latetst Ogg filters (OggDS0990.exe) Here you have picture from graphedit:

click to see picture (http://strony.wp.pl/wp/zbychol1/ogm.png)

[gldblade]

The filters appear to have been rendered correctly...

Maybe it's the original audio file that's gone bad. Try playing the .ogg file by itself without the video. If that doesn't work, then something may have happened in the creation of the .ogg.

[roy]

There is no sound when I play only audio file ogg too. As I said before I must create ogg file using OggMachine, HeadAC3 doesn't work properly. When I compress ac3 to ogg with HeadAC3 in the middle of the work I got error that can't create destination file. But I have one film in ogm format, creatung not on my machine and with one everything is ok. When I paly it I can hear sound.

[Charlieds]

@Roy
Could you post your OggMachine/Besweet command line?
I suspect you're doing something wrong in the ogg encoding.

[roy]

After all day I have find why there was no sound. reason is very simple. OggMachnie is using BeSweet, wich one is command line program. So whan I was using as input file something like this "ronin AC3 T03 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3" the programm doesn't recognize properly input file, everything was was ok when I change the file name to something like this: "ronin_en.ac3". Now everything is ok. It is very simple so I think we often forget about it. Thanks all for help.

[gldblade]

Um... OggMachine works when I do "tombraider AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 4ms.ac3". Am I missing something?

[roy]

By me it works too, but produce silent ogg file. I changed only one thing file name, and everything was ok.

[Acaila]

To recognize a long name just place it between "" and it should work perfectly.

[Charlieds]

I believe DanniDin fixed the long names bug ages ago, are you sure you're using the latest OggMachine v0.16?

[roy]

The latest version OggMachine.

[DSPguru]

@roy
please post your logfile, it will help us help you.

until you post it, here are two tips :
1. set gain to 'find maximum' (normalize)
2. you can try working with latest (http://besweet.notrace.dk) beta of BeSweetGUI (it also support Ogg Vorbis)


Cheers :),
Dg.

[roy]

Here it is my log file. First compression I got silent ogg file, second one with sound.




"
BeSweet v1.2 logfile.
--------------------------
Logging start : 04/07/02 , 17:33:25.

E:\Divx\BESWEET\BeSweet.exe -core( -input J:\RONIN\ronin AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3 -output J:\RONIN\ronin AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ogg -logfilea BeSweet.log -6chogg ) -azid( -L -3db -n1 -c normal ) -ogg( -q 0.400 )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : J:\RONIN\ronin AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
[00:00:00:000] | Output: J:\RONIN\ronin AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ogg
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
[00:00:00:000] +-------- AZID -------
[00:00:00:000] | Output Stereo mode: Dolby surround compatible
[00:00:00:000] | Total Gain: 0.0dB, Compression: Normal
[00:00:00:000] | LFE levels: To LR -3.0dB, To LFE 0.0dB
[00:00:00:000] | Center mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Surround mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Dialog normalization: Yes
[00:00:00:000] | Rear channels filtering: No
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:000] +-------- OGG --------
[00:00:00:000] | VBR Quality : 0.400
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------
[01:56:25:408] Conversion Completed !
[01:56:25:408] Actual Avg. Bitrate : 339kbps
[01:16:07:000] <-- Transcoding Duration
Logging ends : 04/07/02 , 18:49:32.



BeSweet v1.2 logfile.
--------------------------
Logging start : 04/07/02 , 22:22:48.

E:\Divx\BESWEET\BeSweet.exe -core( -input J:\ronin\ronin_en.ac3 -output J:\ronin\ronin_en222.ogg -logfilea BeSweet.log -6chogg ) -azid( -L -3db -n1 -f1 -c normal ) -ota( -d 0 ) -ogg( -q 0.350 )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : J:\ronin\ronin_en.ac3
[00:00:00:000] | Output: J:\ronin\ronin_en222.ogg
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
[00:00:00:000] +-------- AZID -------
[00:00:00:000] | Output Stereo mode: Dolby surround compatible
[00:00:00:000] | Total Gain: 0.0dB, Compression: Normal
[00:00:00:000] | LFE levels: To LR -3.0dB, To LFE 0.0dB
[00:00:00:000] | Center mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Surround mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Dialog normalization: Yes
[00:00:00:000] | Rear channels filtering: Yes
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:000] +-------- OGG --------
[00:00:00:000] | VBR Quality : 0.350
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------
[01:56:25:408] Conversion Completed !
[01:56:25:408] Actual Avg. Bitrate : 334kbps
[01:09:45:000] <-- Transcoding Duration
Logging ends : 04/07/02 , 23:32:33.
"

[gldblade]

Hmm... The command line for the first one is wrong. It's supposed to have quotes around the filenames. As in:

E:\Divx\BESWEET\BeSweet.exe -core( -input "J:\RONIN\ronin AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3" -output "J:\RONIN\ronin AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ogg" -logfilea BeSweet.log -6chogg ) -azid( -L -3db -n1 -c normal ) -ogg( -q 0.400 )

The above should work fine. So why isn't OggMachine inserting the quotes?

*EDIT*
Unless BeSweet removes the quotes when it puts it in the log file. In which case I would be wrong.

*EDIT 2*
I'm wrong :)

[DSPguru]

hi roy :),
in your first transcoding process, you encoded to 5.1vorbis, while on the second, you encoded to stereo vorbis.

the cause for silent audio in 5.1 vorbis, is that up until recently, the vorbis developers haven't decided on the channel ordering in this mode.
to solve this, upgrade to the latest beta of BeSweet v1.3.
it should do.


Cheers,
Dg.