how to resize 2.35 to 1.85 using non anamorphic DVDs

[madhops]

I've looked through a bunch of different posts but can't seem to find the answer, if someone could give me the script for the procedure that would be great, or even the link to where I can read it would be much appreciated. I'm looking for a way to resize 16:9 widescreen movies (non-anamorphic) (2.35) to the slightly less widescreen format 1.85 using DVD2SVCD (obviously) and CCE 2.5SP. I've seen a complicated way to do it through TMPGE, but I would really like the AVS script so I don't have to go through all that. Thanks.

Oh, one more thing, how do you know if a disk in animorphic or not. Thanks

:)

[gerti67]

Hi madhops,

seems you know how to edit the AviSynth script with DVD2SVCD - right? Choose "Edit after dvd2avi processing is done" in "Frameserver" tab, if the window with the AviSynth script is popping up change it this way:

#For PAL
...
Crop(90,72,540,432) <- insert this line
BicubicResize(480,576,0.00,0.60) <- depends on your resize method
...

#For NTSC
...
Crop(90,60,540,360) <- insert this line
BicubicResize(480,480,0.00,0.60) <- depends on your resize method
...

But you should use the BicubicResize because you are upscaling and shrinking at the same time and it usually will do better than the other resize options.

You have to set 4:3 for the aspect ratio in "Conversion" tab but DVD2SVCD should set this properly by itself when you load the IFO file.

You can use DVD2AVI and load the ripped VOBs into it and preview them - if it shows 16:9 in the statistics window then it is anamorphic or you just have a look on the DVD cover or you look at amazon.com for the DVD - they have this info available for nearly all of their DVDs they sell.

But if you load the IFO then DVD2SVCD should just do it right so there's usually no need to worry about it. If the aspect ratio pulldown says "4:3" then it is a real 4:3 or a non-anamorphic widescreen - if it says "16:9" then it is a anamorphic DVD - that's it.

Greetings,
Gerti

[madhops]

Hi Gerti67

Thanks for answering my post, and yes, I do know how to edit the AViSynth file. But Ok here's the problem (keep in mind that I didn't know how to tell anamorphic form non-anamorphic before your reply), I read your steps to do the anamorphic conversion from 2.35 to 1.85 yestereday and made a SVCD with DVD2SVCDb4 using the scrips you gave (DVD2SVCD identified the source DVD to be 16:9). When I played the SVCD on my Hitachi 415 player, the video picture is displayed on the top half of the screen, and the bottom half consists of green coloured "garbage" data/picture (nothing really). My TV is a regular 4:3 TV, and use NTSC. It seems that the video is in proper 1.85 format, but only on the top half of the screen. That is why I thought my disk was non-anamorphic, but now I find out that it was anamorphic after all. So why didn't it work? I don't know. I followed your instrucitons:

Crop(90,0,540,480) <= insert this line
SimpleResize(480,480) <= this line depends on the resize method
AddBorders(0,60,0,60) <= delete this line

and the only difference is that I always use Bicubicresize, and of course I didn't include the " <= .......... " text. I deleted the log file by accident so I can't remember exacty what the AVS script was. Is there a different setting of "Crop" and "AddBoarders" if you use BicubicResize?

[gerti67]

Hi madjops,

waht happens if you play the created MPEG files in PowerDVD or WinDVD or Media Player? - Do they look alright then?

Do you still have the "AviSynth_Script_file.avs" on your harddisk? - If so, you can try to play that AVS with Media Player and see if it's ok.

Greetings,
Gerti

[madhops]

OK, I played the SVCD in PowerDVD and it played fine no problems, Window's media player could't play it (and yes I do have the mpeg2.dll codec installed). Just a quick note though, the first couple times I put in the SVCD PowerDVD said that it was an unsuported format, but after taking it out and putting it back in a couple time PowerDVD played it just fine at the encoded 1.85:1 (probably just a glitch). So I still don't know where the problem my be, my DVD player plays just about anything, and it has played every SVCD that I've made using DVD2SVCD perfectly. I don't think if it should have mattered how the svcd was cropped or encoded, since in the end the movie file complies to the SVCD standard (480 x 480, mpeg2, etc.....). But hey, it still could be my player, however, I just put some older discs that I've made and they still play fine.

If it's not too much trouble, could you give me the exact script that you'd use for an NTSC DVD (16:9) 2.35 converted to SVCD with 1.85 (4:3) display using CCE 2.5 and bicubicResize. I know I should be chossing "Edit after dvd2avi processing is done" in "Frameserver" tab, and the window with the AviSynth script will pop sometime before the encoding takes place and I'm supposed to change the text. So it is the exact text in that AViSynth window that I'm looking for. (I deleted my original avs script by accident -- yes stupid me, I know.....)

Thanks again gerti67 for the very fast replies!!! Your help is much appreciated.

[gerti67]

Hi again,

if it plays right in PowerDVD then it should be OK with the standalone also - hmm - have you tried to burn the "foolproof way" like in the sticky above? Perhaps something went wrong during burning because PowerDVD usually complains also when there's a problem with the CD-R.

Sorry I can't help you with an NTSC script as I'm only doing PAL but it should pretty look like this with NTSC for a 16:9 anamorphic DVD:

LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("G:\Ripping\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
BicubicResize(480,360,0.00,0.60)
AddBorders(0,60,0,60)

and you have to change it this way:

LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("G:\Ripping\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
Crop(90,0,540,480)
BicubicResize(480,480,0.00,0.60)

But be aware for NTSC it can look a little different wether IVTC or other NTSC specific stuff like Force FILM is used. But this doesn't matter just insert the Crop statement before the Resize and delete the AddBorders statement completely.

Greetings,
Gerti

[madhops]

YES!!!! it worked Thanks Gerti67!!! I think there must have been a error on my part somewhere along the line, or just one of those random glitches, but whatever, it works perfectly now. Thanks for the AViSynth script.