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m3taPT
28th March 2002, 18:11
movie time detected on Conversion tab: 2h01m (correct)

then

in dvd2svcd.log

- Encoding c:\movie\AviSynth_Script_file.avs
StreamSectors: 1666479976
AudioSectors: 172684820
VideoPAPO: 23139684
ScanOffsetBytes: 218770
SeqAligningBytes: 13904023
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 10362716
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 300.00
PureMPEGStream: 1446169954.93
Seconds: 6085.02 <<--------------------
CalcMPEGStream: 1446169954.93
Frames: 182308
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 789.00
Video Encoding finished.


then, of course, the bitrate on tmpg/cce is calculated based on 6000
seconds (1hr) and lowers drastically, thus making a bad 2cd rip instead of a 3cd rip with good bitrate.

any ideas?


edit:

in the same log, further down

Length of c:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
3068
Length of c:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
4224


thats 2 hrs, so it just went wrong ON encoding, lowering the bitrate.
it should have calculated bitrate for 3cds, not 2.

gerti67
28th March 2002, 18:25
Hi m3taPT,

all usual trouble questions should go to the basic forum, so I moved it over there.

To your problem: Is the time really correct (2h01m)? - Did you use PowerDVD or WinDVD to check that? Sometimes the info from the IFO is wrong and D2S detects the correct length of the movie on the fly when ripping with internal routines - so did you use the internal routines?

Another one, see the "Movie length" pulldown for different movie lengths (click on it) and try to use one of these.

And btw. 6085 seconds are 101 minutes or 1h41m so it is not one hour!

Greetings,
Gerti

m3taPT
28th March 2002, 18:30
Yes, i checked on my standalone, and even on IMDB... heh.

Yeah 1h41, guess i wrote it in a rush. My point is, it calculated 15-20 mns below the REAL movie time, thats 2h01 im sure, thus lowering the "would be" 3cd rip to 2cd. Of course, i could fool it asying on the bitrate something like "between 90 and 150 minutes, use 3 cds", but... i'd prefer for it to detect the length correctly.
Yes i used internal routines. Should i try with vstrip?


Thanks for moving the thread.

gerti67
28th March 2002, 18:39
Hi again,

have you checked the movie length pulldown? Are there different track length listed?

Greetings,
Gerti

m3taPT
28th March 2002, 18:40
only 1, 02:01.15

"len. of selected chapters: 121.15 mins"

gerti67
28th March 2002, 18:49
Hmm,

and the "Track length" pulldown in the "Select chapters" window is also just listing one track length?

Have you checked the MPG files on your hard disk are they complete?

m3taPT
28th March 2002, 18:52
Yeah i was just checking the tracks. Says 2h01m. all fine.

the mpgs are perfect, they have the full movie. so, the outcome of all this prob is "only" the fact it made a full 2cd rip at 1901kb average instead of what i intended, that was 3cd with an average of 2200 or so.

ps: cd2 came with 82m44s :\

da franksta
28th March 2002, 19:03
the problem is your source is being diagnosed as being ntsc (29.97 fps), while in fact it is pal (25 fps).

m3taPT
28th March 2002, 19:07
Analyzing DVD2AVI Project file
Force Film NOT activated!
Framerate: 29970

Bingo.

Last question i guess... whats the best way to surpass this bad detection?

gerti67
28th March 2002, 19:08
Edit:

Oh, da franksta found out the problem - thanx a lot - I was not aware of this problem as I'm only doing PAL and never had this problem yet. ;)

Greetings,
Gerti

m3taPT
28th March 2002, 19:10
@gerti:

...
90-109 - 2cd, 800
109-180 - 3cd, 800
180-240 - 4cd, 800

Always worked.

Think Franksta found the "glitch". Yeah i was supposed to be doing Pal only too, D2S tripped me ;)

gerti67
28th March 2002, 19:29
Hmm,

I don't know how to avoid it - but seems you have to watch the log for a while during DVD2AVI processing and see if the framerate is detected correctly - if not then you should stop it and change the entries in "Bitrate" tab perhaps to be safe that a PAL detected as NTSC will also use 3 CDs and the bitrate will calculated correctly then.

Perhaps da franksta can tell you - if he had to deal with this problem in the past?

Greetings,
Gerti

da franksta
29th March 2002, 15:20
sorry, never had this problem myself. just figured to do a little math on the numbers you gave us. ;)

i do both pal and ntsc encodes, and dvd2svcd has never let me down. i'm afraid i can't be more of help

cheers

m3taPT
29th March 2002, 17:25
Alright, thanks for the help anyway
i had to change my bitrates to fool D2S:
before:
90-109 - 2cd, 800
109-180 - 3cd, 800

for this one:
90-109 - 3cd, 800
109-180 - 3cd, 800

That did it... not the way i wanted but worked :devil:

of course, movie was amazingly a LOT out of synch due to the fact the audio was for pal, and the video became 29fps. i reripped with ntsc2pal enabled and finally it worked.

dvd2svcd
30th April 2002, 10:37
I have split this thread where it ended before. If any wants to continue this thread in a proper way feel free to do so.