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Koepi
27th March 2002, 10:19
Good morning pals,

another fine OggMux release:

27.03.2002 10:30h MET
- Version 0.7.2
- Further GUI and code cleanups
- Fixed the "reset" function to include latest additions
- Added "Director's Comments" as language

Find it at the OggMux link in my signature.

Enjoy!

Best regards,
Koepi

hofmetzger
27th March 2002, 10:44
just a _very_ little point: u could compress your zip-file that way, we can decompress it with "extract here" without havin the files spread over the dir in wich we downloaded it (my download dir is very full so i had to search the first time i downloaded it :o )

well thats the only suggestion i can give u because your tool is just excellent!

sierrafoxtrot
27th March 2002, 13:19
@koepi

are there any significant differences between v0.3 and v0.5(0.7 etc?) the reason i ask is because i cannot seem to mux a vorbis track with divx5 (nor xvid for that matter) to an ogm with versions v0.4 and above (i'm using the latest DS filters from tobias). i just get an ogm file marginally bigger than video alone which is without sound.

i can't seem to find any other threads with users with similar problems, so i apologise in advance if this has already been discussed. anyway, i'll go back tonight and experiment a bit more to try and pin down the problem.

thanks!

Rumata
27th March 2002, 13:33
Originally posted by Koepi
- Added "Director's Comments" as language

Thank you for this one. :D

Koepi
27th March 2002, 13:44
@Rumata:

You're welcome. I didn't realise that those were missing since I usually don't encode them when I have a DVD at hand every few weeks.

@sierrafoxtrot:
Hm, sorry, the only things that changed are GUI specific.
"Internally" I just did major cleanups, making functions out of adding filters to the filter graph etc.
So basically nothing which affects the "muxability" of filetypes.
You must have changed something in your setup when you can't mux it correctly anymore, that's the only guess I have...

Sorry for not being of more help,

best regards,
Koepi

The People's Elbow
27th March 2002, 13:56
Hi Koepi, nice tool you've created, but somehow it is not willing to work on my machine :( Give's me error messages like:
"Can't render input file ...avi (Video) ; Can't render input file ...ogg (Audio) ; and finnaly - Can't find Oggmuxer input pin"
...Do you know what might be the problem? By the way, Graphedit works for muxing purposes and all needed filters are installed!

- greetz from the Elbow

Koepi
27th March 2002, 14:40
Elbow, did you have all input files in the same directory as the output file?

Regards,
Koepi

NoLogo
27th March 2002, 14:45
Koepi>

The fact you add 'Director's comments' is great, i can't deny it, but what could be even greater, would be to have the possibility to add free comments. I mean, if i could write 'Commentaires' or anything else in the language area (what is possible with GraphEdit), OggMux would be definitely the perfect tool for me :)

Regards
NoLogo

PS: it is already the perfect one, by the way ;)

Koepi
27th March 2002, 16:04
I had that in the first versions, but that produced big problems with fetching and setting the actual data, for deleting/modifying purposes and so on.

So I guess I won't add it, at least not soon.

Sorry,

regards,
Koepi

mustaneekeri
27th March 2002, 16:35
Originally posted by sierrafoxtrot
@koepi

are there any significant differences between v0.3 and v0.5(0.7 etc?) the reason i ask is because i cannot seem to mux a vorbis track with divx5 (nor xvid for that matter) to an ogm with versions v0.4 and above (i'm using the latest DS filters from tobias). i just get an ogm file marginally bigger than video alone which is without sound.

i can't seem to find any other threads with users with similar problems, so i apologise in advance if this has already been discussed. anyway, i'll go back tonight and experiment a bit more to try and pin down the problem.

thanks!

I have the same problem. when i try to mux 800MB DivX 5 avi and 60MB ogg audio. the resulting file is only 804MB. And ofcourse when u try to play it thers no audio. Graphedit and OggMux 0.1 however muxed the files correctly.

Koepi
27th March 2002, 16:38
Mustakaneeri & SirraFoxTrott,

which Version of the OggDS filters do you use? Which OS?

Does the soundfile show up in WMP6.4 context menu?

Regards,
Koepi

sierrafoxtrot
27th March 2002, 16:51
@koepi

i'm using win2k sp2 and OggDS 0.9.8.9 (although i've used oggmux with OggDS 0.9.8.6 and it works fine)

the Vorbis soundfile plays fine using WMP, and in zoomplayer, which autoloads DS filters, there is soundfile in the context menu, so i'm guessing it's not there at all. the slightly larger ogm file produced may be due to muxing overhead even though the vorbis file is absent.

oggMux v0.3 works perfectly though, don't know if this is significant, but i usually save them as *.avi files, and the later versions of oggMux as *.ogm and then i rename in explorer ... i'll check when i get back home ... hopefully this helps.

thanks again!

Koepi
27th March 2002, 16:59
Even if you call the resulting file *.avi, it contains an OGG stream, so there is definatly muxing overhead.

I use win2k sp2 here as well and can't reproduce the error, whatever I try.
Maybe it's a problem with DivX5? How did you create the vorbis ogg file?

Regards,
Koepi

The People's Elbow
27th March 2002, 17:04
Regarding my problem: If I put all files into the same directory Oggmux pruduces an error message and terminates itself :confused: ...funny bug ;) , but I still don't know where the reason is...


PS: I'm using The OggDS V0.9.8.5 since the newest release isn't giving me sound anymore...OS is WinME

- greetz Elbow

Koepi
27th March 2002, 17:55
Use at least 0.9.8.6!
There can still be a problem with that build, caused by giving a progressbar.

I never checked earlier versions than 0.9.8.6.

I only used .6 and .9 here, so those are working for me.

Try muxing with .9, uninstall and install .6 and see if it works for you :)

(Or even better: install a non Dos OS ;) )

Regards,
Koepi

mustaneekeri
27th March 2002, 18:18
Originally posted by Koepi
Mustakaneeri & SirraFoxTrott,

which Version of the OggDS filters do you use? Which OS?

Does the soundfile show up in WMP6.4 context menu?

Regards,
Koepi

OggDS 0.9.8.9, WinXP Pro.
I don't know if this is a factor but Allways seak to keyframe is Off in Oggsplitter.
Tried both OggMachine and HeadAC3he produced Vorbis files.

Koepi
27th March 2002, 18:28
Hmmm... there might be some incompatibilities with WinXP because of the different DirectShow architecture compared to win2k (and this is different to the win9x (including winMe) architecture...)

If you have a win2k at hands, please install directX 8.1 and see if it works correctly there.
I have no WinXP so I can't verify/falsify functionality with that OS...

Regards,
Koepi

NoLogo
27th March 2002, 19:51
I have no problem at all with WinXP Pro.
Everything turns nice with Tobias' OggDS 0.9.8.9 + OggMux 0.7.2.

sierrafoxtrot
27th March 2002, 20:34
finally got muxing to work with OggDS 0.9.8.9 and oggMux 0.7.2 and after all that grief, the problem was painfully obvious. once you select the vorbis track and language you have to _add_ it :D

sorry for the false bug-report. i shall crawl back to the basement now ... :(

@mustaneekri ... bet you're kicking yourself too :p

Koepi
27th March 2002, 20:39
*grin*

phew, so not really my fault, I started picking out every hair on my head what could go wrong ;)

Thanks for clearing this up :)

Any ideas how I could make it a little easier to find that you have to add the file to the list first?

Best regards,
Koepi

lar1r
27th March 2002, 21:02
Yes I did the same thing the first time i used your tool and couldn't figure it out. But I did eventually!

I would recommend that if there are NO other audio files in the added list, then the program would mux whatever is in the file audio line (no need to ADD audio if there is only one audio file to be muxed).

(ie: my prob was that since i did not ADD video, I thought I didn't need to ADD audio)

sierrafoxtrot
27th March 2002, 22:24
@koepi

i suppose you could have a pop-up to warn you if you've not added any audio. just a suggestion to make life easier for any low-watt bulbs out there LoL

mustaneekeri
28th March 2002, 01:21
Originally posted by sierrafoxtrot
finally got muxing to work with OggDS 0.9.8.9 and oggMux 0.7.2 and after all that grief, the problem was painfully obvious. once you select the vorbis track and language you have to _add_ it :D

sorry for the false bug-report. i shall crawl back to the basement now ... :(

@mustaneekri ... bet you're kicking yourself too :p

Ya, somehow i feel a little stupid here. :rolleyes:

MaTTeR
28th March 2002, 02:42
I'm seeing the same problem as The People's Elbow Koepi. What makes it odd is that GraphEdit has no problem with the mux or render.

Using 8.9 with OggMux 0.7.2 but I've had the same problems since around 0.4. I've tried assigning languages to the Ogg track and without, neither make a difference except for the type error I get.

WinXP
Dual PIII 850s

Here's a couple of errors I got-

Can't render input file *.avi
Next message is can not render input file *.ogg

AppName: oggmux.exe AppVer: 0.7.2.1 ModName: oggmux.exe
ModVer: 0.7.2.1 Offset: 0000444b
___________________________________
Can not find Ogg muxer input pin

AppName: oggmux.exe AppVer: 0.7.2.1 ModName: oggmux.exe
ModVer: 0.7.2.1 Offset: 00002c8c

Let me know if you need any other information.

Edit/ The AVI file is of course XviD:D Thx for the nice tool, very helpful.

pakman945
28th March 2002, 06:17
I had the same problem with not being able to render the video and audio with oggmux but being able to mux with graphedit. Once I put the video and the audio in the same folder as the output file, everything worked great. See if that solves it for you. And thanks to Koepi for the great tool!

RadicalEd
28th March 2002, 06:21
@MaTTer
All your files must be in the same directory. That is all the input files and the muxxed export. Simple solution, don't worry I've done it more than once myself ;)

note- erm.. Kopei already adressed this after The People's Elbow originally posted.. but owell, here it is again for your convenience and to keep confusion at a minimum. Thats always good. Not that confusing people isnt fun but.. oh I'm rambling again, sorry.

MaTTeR
28th March 2002, 06:26
Doh! How did I miss that?:confused:

I thought I read every post in the thread. Ok, thx for the heads up;)

Koepi
28th March 2002, 07:47
MAtter:
I syour problem solved with that now or are there real bugs? ;)

thanks everybody for jumping in :) Nice to know that in my usual few hours sleep some take care ;)

Best regards,
Koepi

BlackSun
28th March 2002, 08:07
Koepi: maybe you can use one thread for all your version ? :p

MaTTeR
28th March 2002, 08:08
@Koepi

Actually it did work having everything in the same folder. Thanks for asking:)

I certainly would have not guessed that was causing my problem:D

Koepi
28th March 2002, 08:10
Blacksun:
I dislike threads that require you to jump over XX pages.
The users tend to not read them.

And thus you'll get bugged about the same things over and over again.

I simply slow down development, then no need to complain about too many threads.
You may delete the old ones if you like.

But I certainly refuse to use a single thread, I tried it once and it resulted in a very bad quality thread.

I hope you understand my concerns.

*SIGH*

Koepi

BlackSun
28th March 2002, 08:19
No problems for me :)

Rumata
28th March 2002, 11:27
@Koepi: here is a question asked on PowerDivX forum:
Anyone happen to know if koepi plans to support taking the audio directly from the source video (avi, mpg, yadayadayada)? ripping it out first isn't my first choice

Koepi
28th March 2002, 11:45
I didn't try that yet and it would require some work.

I'll look into it.

It's a bad thing[tm] to remux old avis anyway, so I guess I don't spend too much time on such stupid things.

It's for muxing NEW encoded sessions. If you have a working avi, leave it that way. Else you always will run into trouble.

Regards,
Koepi

Rumata
28th March 2002, 18:41
@Koepi: Thank's for your reply. I forwarded it to the original author.

I personaly stay at this stage with good-ol` AVI. At least until SubDS is cleared of its current bugs.

But I like to keep updated :D