New Vidomi! (Network encode)

[Razorblade2000]

Wow! Pretty nice! Lots of new features!
Network encode (O.K. not perfekt, but a good solution)
ABR Audio support (O.K. VBR would be better...)
Manual cropping
...
Go to get it (http://www.vidomi.com)
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[Razorblade2000]

Everything is automated!!!!
Xvid 2 Pass, Divx5 2 Pass...
It even has a "real" Divx5 VBR mode!!!!!! (not only 2 Pass)

[brianafischer]

What advantages does this program have over virtualdub?

-Brian

[Razorblade2000]

Vidomi is a kind of all-in-one solution, Vdub needs Gknot

It can directly ready .vob files (not workarounds using GKnot)

It also has an Autocrop feature.

You have an really automated compression (Not switching around durin passes or putting it into Job lists)

DivX5 VBR mode!!! (Not only 2 Pass)

Its pretty fast

You can encode using several PCs over a Network!!!

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[brianafischer]

Wow....i didn't realize that you meant distributed computing by "network encode". That is really cool. I like to do tv shows so I need to edit out the commercials. I don't think vidomi can do that. I will have to check it out. Maybe I could filter and edit in vdub...then frameserv to vidomi. I'll get back on my experience.

-Brian:D

[Razorblade2000]

DivX5 VBR mode!!! (Not only 2 Pass)
DOESN'T WORK!!!!! It crashes @ the 2nd pass!!! (look @ vidomi.com in the forum)

[tripnotik]

I think their way of doing a distributed encoding is only when you do more than 1CD, it will split the job into 2 parts for example, 1 per CD. Which is not a good idea, because you could have very different quality between the 2 CDs.

Also, there doesn't seem to be a way to do IVTC with it. And it can't even read movies served by Avisynth. It may be good for someone who doesn't have a clue about encoding, but I think the experienced encoders will still prefer VirtualDub + Avisynth.

[Zhnujm]

theres a list box where you can select the ivtc options.
if it ever gets ac3 support i will start using it ;)

[tripnotik]

@Zhnujm
I see deinterlace, and something which seems similar to DVD2AVI's Forced Film, but it doesn't seem to be able to do IVTC.

[Neo Neko]

Originally posted by Razorblade2000
It even has a "real" Divx5 VBR mode!!!!!! (not only 2 Pass) [/B]

Divx5 has no CBR modes. It is all VBR.

[Razorblade2000]

But not R E A L extreme Hardcore VBR!!! ;)
And you can do this 29.97 -> 23.976 stuff!!! (IVTC? Is it? coming from Germany, don't need to care about this stuff!).

And to "I-am-soo-cool-I-can-use-Virtualdub-and-Avisynth" tripnotik:

And it can't even read movies served by Avisynth

WHO CARES!!!!!! VIDOMI CAN READ MPEG2!!!!!!!


I think their way of doing a distributed encoding is only when you do more than 1CD, it will split the job into 2 parts for example, 1 per CD.

YOU CAN ALSO USE 2 PARTS ON A 1 CD RIP!!!!!

Which is not a good idea, because you could have very different quality between the 2 CDs.



WHY??? EVERYTHING IS CONTROLLED BY THE MASTER-PC! ITS SLAVES DO WHAT THE MASTER TELLS THEM TO DO!!!!

It may be good for someone who doesn't have a clue about encoding, but I think the experienced encoders will still prefer VirtualDub + Avisynth.

DOESNT'T HAVE A CLUE????
WHY SHOULD I USE AVISYNTH AND VDUB AND HAVE A LOT OF WORK???
IN FACT: EVERY DUMBASS CAN USE GKNOT!!! I TEACHED A CLASSMATE TO USE IT IN 10 MINUTES!!!!!
:devil: :angry: :devil: :angry: :devil: :angry: :devil: :angry: :devil:

[Selur]

"I TEACHED A CLASSMATE TO USE IT IN 10 MINUTES!!!!! "
Like shouting at him like this?

Screaming around is a "no,no,.."

"But not R E A L extreme Hardcore VBR!!!"
*gig* and that does work how? Did they hack the Codec an modified it,.. ? (btw. sorry, but it seems like u are not to sure about what vbr (really) means and what u are talking,..)

About the distributed networking stuff,.. I personally think it's not so good,.. For me distributed networking should work on a Frame-to-Frame or scene to scene basis,.. (manly makes sense for 2nd pass)

The only think that I really like about vidomi is it's acapability of dealing with mpegs and pva files from capture cards,... (some other tools tend to have problems ther with files that run fine with vidomi)

Cu Selur

[ChristianHJW]

Razorblade2000,

please read the forum rules again. Watch the words you use and the way you post them.

Back to subject :

Marty from vidomi is a very nice guy and in fact nobody can deny he is doing great work with vidomi recently. Since he resolved the issues with the 'stolen' vdub code there is really no reason to not have a look at his work, or to advertise it the way you do.

In fact, i recommended some 'Newbie' friends looking for a good all-in-one tool to use Vidomi recently. But, having said that, the general perception on this board is to be focussed on highest possible quality, irrespective of the ease of use of the applications that are necessary to achieve this quality.

From this point of view TheWEVs 'TheGordianKnot' is still giving highest possible quality, flexibility and speed and it is the recommended encoding tool here. This is even more valid now that using it is getting easier and easier, thanks to TheWEVs excellent work.

Again : thanks for your contribution and input, but please try to be more polite and respect the forum rules.

@selur : thanks for keeping cool and not starting a flame war here. Doom9 is not the place for such and the mod team will not tolerate any such actions.

Thanks

[Razorblade2000]

Sorry, was a little bit angry and wanted to write a reply, you see what came out.. :(
But well, as today is my Birthday (Yehaw! 17!), I'm sure you`ll forgive me.

Did they hack the Codec an modified it
Vidomi opens and closes the codec @ every keyframe and sets a new bitrate, it also has VKI, but the DivX bitrate is set per key frame based on target size and bits remaining, not like in normal DivX 2-Pass where the average bitrate is computed after 1st pass completed.
Therefore it can hit a target size accurate to a ONE MB (Normal 2-Pass hits accurate to few MB).

[Razorblade2000]

"I TEACHED A CLASSMATE TO USE IT IN 10 MINUTES!!!!! "
Like shouting at him like this? "No,No,No!"

No, I showed him by doing it myself and I explained a bit. Afterwards I went home and it seems he could do the stuff on his own. (He showed me his rip the next day, looked fine)









Originally posted by Selur
"I TEACHED A CLASSMATE TO USE IT IN 10 MINUTES!!!!! "
Like shouting at him like this?

Screaming around is a "no,no,.."

"But not R E A L extreme Hardcore VBR!!!"
*gig* and that does work how? Did they hack the Codec an modified it,.. ? (btw. sorry, but it seems like u are not to sure about what vbr (really) means and what u are talking,..)

About the distributed networking stuff,.. I personally think it's not so good,.. For me distributed networking should work on a Frame-to-Frame or scene to scene basis,.. (manly makes sense for 2nd pass)

The only think that I really like about vidomi is it's acapability of dealing with mpegs and pva files from capture cards,... (some other tools tend to have problems ther with files that run fine with vidomi)

Cu Selur "I TEACHED A CLASSMATE TO USE IT IN 10 MINUTES!!!!! "

[Selur]

:D Happy Birthday !! :D

Cu Selur

Ps.: And thx for the 'vbr' info ;)

[tripnotik]

Razorblade2000,

Yeah, I know I'm cool, thanks. :-)

You know, some people like all-in-one tools, and some other people don't. It's just like cars, some like them automatic (I think 85% of the people here in Canada), and some like them manual.

I just read the documentation on their website, and it appears the program can do IVTC, but I don't have this option in the selection box.

As for the network encode, this is from the Vidomi documentation:
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When enabled, Vidomi will split jobs that target more than one media disc into multiple sub jobs that each create a single media disc. In order for Hyper encode to work, the target size must be set by media disc count, the number of media Discs must be 2 or more, and the number range cuts must be 1.
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So, ok, you could say that your discs are 350 MB, and put 2 discs and then combine the 2 clips together and put them on one disc. But in the extreme case that the first part of the movie is very low action, and that the second part is heavy action, will Vidomi be able to detect that it should not split the movie half/half, but maybe two-thirds/one-third?

Their vbr thing seems not so bad but we'll have to see how it will turn out. I would love it if DivXNetworks would give use the level of control over the quantizers like there was in Nandub.

Anyway, happy birthday.

[Zhnujm]

ivtc is only available in rgb mode, not in yuv mode.