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Oldie2454
26th March 2002, 07:05
Does anyone know how to put music onto a DVD and have it play in a player. I have a panasonic in dash DVd player and it will not play CD-rs so i would like to put it on a DVD-r, any help would be appreciated, thanks
Jeff
auenf
26th March 2002, 09:49
try making a dvd project in any authoring program, use your tracks either in PCM or compress them, and for video, make up a file that is half-D1 and is CBR 0.5kbps or something.
should give you lots of room for tracks.
Enf...
Antonio S.
26th March 2002, 16:10
Instead of using a video, use a STILL (jpeg or bmp)...
Antonio S.
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Oldie2454
26th March 2002, 18:19
so what kind of file do i need to convert the audio into??
thanks
Jeff
Oldie2454
26th March 2002, 18:27
also what is a good program for this, if anyone has it maybe drop me a line at anfonee1@dreamscape.com telling me where i can download a trial.... not warez just a real trial, thanks Jeff
Antonio S.
26th March 2002, 18:48
For the audio part of your DVD Video you can have any of the following formats: PCM, ac3 (Dolby Digital), mp2 (Mpeg-1 layer 2), or DTS. You can create PCM from your waves files included in your audio CD's using an audio editor as Real Jukebox, Windows Media Player, etc. Then you can load your PCM directly to your authoring program or convert it to a smaller file. To change it from PCM to mp2 you can use TMPGEnc or Besweet. To change from PCM to ac3 there was a program call "Sonic Foundry Soft Encode" but I think that it is not longer available. To change from PCM to DTS, I don't know any program.
Just check with your authoring program what audio does it accept...
Antonio S.
http://www.antonio.owns.it
Oldie2454
26th March 2002, 20:13
I have had the files for soft encode for a long time but when i try to install it says can not read readme file or something like that if anyone could help me out with a better file please email to anfonee1@dreamescape.com not the demo though, that doesnt let u encode
Ragornette
26th March 2002, 21:11
put the readme file at the root of your install disc (CDROM ou HD):sly:
Oldie2454
26th March 2002, 22:38
what a sweetheart... jk thanks though man
DSPguru
26th March 2002, 22:55
Surcode sells DTS encoding softwares. i believe you can find a link to the company on the BeSure guide.
Cheers,
Dg.
Oldie2454
26th March 2002, 23:17
Thanks for all the replies on this... Ok i almost got it all i think but what is a program that i can import the ac3 file with a jpg picture as the background for it.. if u understand what i mean, also how would i do this with that prgram
thanks
Jeff
Oldie2454
27th March 2002, 08:41
Ok i am at this point, I am using DVDMaestro and Soft encode, but when i try to import the PCM wave into maestro it says invalid sampling unsupported media type, and when i try to make it an ac3 file in soft encode it just is static, any more guidance???
thanks
Jeff
Oldie2454
27th March 2002, 10:24
new update.... i have all the audio tracks and the 1 bmp loaded into Maestro, now can someone please tell me how to play all of those audio with the one picture, thanks
Jeff
auenf
27th March 2002, 12:58
Originally posted by DSPguru
Surcode sells DTS encoding softwares. i believe you can find a link to the company on the BeSure guide.
Cheers,
Dg.
minnetonka sell surcode DVD DTS Pro
www.minnetonkaaudio.com
they also sell a 2ch and a 5.1 ch AC3 programs.
i dont think using still will be better, cause i think (not exactly sure) that when compiling, maestro converts the stills to 8mbit mpeg-2 streams.
Enf...
easy2Bcheesy
27th March 2002, 17:44
Originally posted by Oldie2454
new update.... i have all the audio tracks and the 1 bmp loaded into Maestro, now can someone please tell me how to play all of those audio with the one picture, thanks
Jeff
Simple - make a menu for each audio track. On the menu connections, set the "time out" to go to the next menu. On the menu screen, set the timeout limit to 0 seconds. Then just chain each menu to the next. This way you could have different stills for each track (maybe with the name on the track of each)
It might also help to set up a couple of invisible auto action buttons on each menu. You could easily set it up so that pressing left on the DVD remote takes you to the previous track and right moves you to the next.
Doing this you can scan through the tracks, or just leave it to cycle through your album.
If you encoded into AC3, you could fit many hours of music onto a DVD-R :)
Oldie2454
27th March 2002, 20:57
Easy to be cheesy, do u have aol messenger or can u drop me an email at anfonee1@dreamscape.com
thanks
Jeff
auenf
28th March 2002, 14:18
Originally posted by easy2Bcheesy
Simple - make a menu for each audio track. On the menu connections, set the "time out" to go to the next menu. On the menu screen, set the timeout limit to 0 seconds. Then just chain each menu to the next. This way you could have different stills for each track (maybe with the name on the track of each)
It might also help to set up a couple of invisible auto action buttons on each menu. You could easily set it up so that pressing left on the DVD remote takes you to the previous track and right moves you to the next.
Doing this you can scan through the tracks, or just leave it to cycle through your album.
If you encoded into AC3, you could fit many hours of music onto a DVD-R :)
i was just thinking about this, and wouldnt that take up more room on the dvd cause the video would be encoded at 8mbit on compile?
or does maestro only compile the one frame for the menu? (when using static menus only it only encodes 1 frame to the disc, but when using dynamic menus, it has to put the whole clip on there, for background music, wouldnt it have to make the menu 'picture' the same length as the audio?)
Enf...
jdobbs
29th March 2002, 18:50
The still image takes almost no space. I played with this a while back using 192kbs stereo AC3 audio and still menus created with ReelDVD. You can get a LOT of music on a DVD. You can even make menus that show separate screens (I used Album covers) for individual songs. It can get pretty tedious creating them though. This would be a great idea for a commercial product -- ripping CDs to DVD that playback on standalones... don't know of one though. Anybody else?
weidl
31st March 2002, 22:51
Is there any easy way to copy mp3-files on a DVD+RW? My DVD-Player can play mp3-Cd´s, but when i copy mp3 on a DVD it doesn´t work.
easy2Bcheesy
2nd April 2002, 15:46
Auenf -
No, putting a still-screen image onto a menu takes up next to no memory at all - just one frame of MPEG2 is created and it stays on-screen for the duration for the audio.
I've produced a commercial DVD5 with 1,000 still screen menus and 115 minutes of footage with no storage problems at all :)
easy2Bcheesy
2nd April 2002, 15:51
Originally posted by weidl
Is there any easy way to copy mp3-files on a DVD+RW? My DVD-Player can play mp3-Cd´s, but when i copy mp3 on a DVD it doesn´t work.
No, you would have to decode the MP3 to a WAV file, then change the frequency to 48000 then re-encode into MP2 or AC3, then bung those into a decent authoring program, then programming a simple menu system. You'd be there for hours - you're probably best off sticking to your CDs.
jdobbs
2nd April 2002, 23:08
That's what happened to me on this concept. I could create a DVD-R that held 60+ albums in AC3 format. I automated the Mp3->WAV->AC3 conversion using some VB code that talked to WinAmp and Softenc, it even created .BMPs of album covers for menus and the slideshow... But when I started the authoring process it tooks hours and hours to create a single DVD-R. I decided it wasn't that important and just copied my Mp3s to CD-R.
This would be a good idea if someone who understood the DVD format automated the authoring process.
auenf
3rd April 2002, 10:25
Originally posted by easy2Bcheesy
Auenf -
No, putting a still-screen image onto a menu takes up next to no memory at all - just one frame of MPEG2 is created and it stays on-screen for the duration for the audio.
I've produced a commercial DVD5 with 1,000 still screen menus and 115 minutes of footage with no storage problems at all :)
ok, i wasnt sure about that, but if you create motion menu with audio, they both have to be the same length?
btw, the 1 frame of menu does get encoded at 8mbit iirc ;)
Enf...
easy2Bcheesy
3rd April 2002, 17:20
Originally posted by jdobbs
That's what happened to me on this concept. I could create a DVD-R that held 60+ albums in AC3 format. I automated the Mp3->WAV->AC3 conversion using some VB code that talked to WinAmp and Softenc, it even created .BMPs of album covers for menus and the slideshow... But when I started the authoring process it tooks hours and hours to create a single DVD-R. I decided it wasn't that important and just copied my Mp3s to CD-R.
This would be a good idea if someone who understood the DVD format automated the authoring process.
This isn't likely to happen since all us DVD authors tend to work through either Scenarist or Maestro. Actually the IFO edit coders would be the best candidates to do this sort of thing :)
AudioVideoMaster
17th July 2002, 13:38
Originally posted by easy2Bcheesy
Simple - make a menu for each audio track. On the menu connections, set the "time out" to go to the next menu. On the menu screen, set the timeout limit to 0 seconds. Then just chain each menu to the next. This way you could have different stills for each track (maybe with the name on the track of each)
It might also help to set up a couple of invisible auto action buttons on each menu. You could easily set it up so that pressing left on the DVD remote takes you to the previous track and right moves you to the next.
Doing this you can scan through the tracks, or just leave it to cycle through your album.
If you encoded into AC3, you could fit many hours of music onto a DVD-R :)
Very interesting idea/thought/solution easy2Bcheesy! I've been thinking about doing this. Never thought to have separate menus for each audio track. I'm off to try this out for myself! :)
jdobbs
18th July 2002, 22:07
easy2bcheesy,
What I meant was -- there has to be a commercial market for this sort of thing. An authoring package that let you take all your MP3s, and build a DVD holding 60 of your favorite albums... all of which can be played back on a standard DVD player. It even has the advantage of digital interfacing all the way to your receiver and on-screen graphics!
jdobbs
TRILIGHT
19th July 2002, 02:36
This is the only software I am personally aware of that is specifically for DVD-Audio authoring. (What the AUDIO_TS folder everyone asks about is really for) I have not seen or used the software myself but I would imagine it would do audio work better than the regular DVD-Video authoring software most use.
Jafco
2nd February 2003, 10:25
Thanks, easy...
Just did a nice soundtrack on a movie DVD, with your menu tips pointing the right direction.
Thanks!
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