OGG Stream with subtitles == graphedit crash

[Schumi3]

I've installed both filters, the newest version of both.

What happens: I add everything (1 xvid video + 2 audio streams + 2 subtitles), and then I press play and everythinggoes fine, until the end, and then, at 100% Graph crashes :/ The file is there, with two audio streams and 2 subtitles and the video, but the video looks really ugly, and at the beginning, WMP is looking for a video codec on the net, when I just play a xvid, he doesn't...
And yes, when I deinstall the subtitles filter and don't use subs, it works great!

Is this a known error?

Thanks //S3

[hofmetzger]

my wmp wanted to download codec too, if stfilter were installed. so i always removed them after muxing.

with the new versions i just tried to install newest oggDS, then subtitleDS, [wmp wants codec], then installed oggDS again, and now it works (terrible performance but thats another point)

[Schumi3]

arghl... when I deinstall the subtitle ds after it, the video is back in good quality, but of course I can't show the sub...
the easiest way would be, to tell wmp that he should take the video as xvid. any idea how to do that?

thanks //S3

Ps.: Geiler Nick ;)

[hofmetzger]

i have to do sth with my english...

i didnt say you should remove them(did i?), thats the fault i always made.
try to install oggDS, subtitDS and oggDS again.

some words in german - cause i don know whats "drüberbügeln" in english :p

bei mir hats nie gefunzt, ich hab aber auch bis gestern nie versucht die oggDS wieder drüberzubügeln _ohne_ subtitDS zu deinstallieren. keine ahnung obs dir hilft, aber bei mir hats geklappt.

[Schumi3]

Yeah, I've got you, but it doesn't help, I've tried it :/
And the new one, released today, doesn't help either.

BTW: When I set up the GE filewriter to write a .avi, he doesn't crash, but the prob remains.

"drüberbügeln" dürfte wohl was in der Sorte von "get the new thing over the old thing", wenn dus violanter willst fügst du halt nochn paar fucks hinzu ;)

[TobiasWaldvogel]

Peformance problems occur usually if the YUV overlay mode is not available. (With the YUV Overlay mode resizing is done by the graphics card rather than the CPU). Without overlay mode the CPU load might increase because it is bigger effort to resize a bigger picture.

Please make sure that
- You have the latest version of DirectX (8.1). Can be checked by executing "dxdiag"
- There is no other application running which is using overlay mode
(Netmeeting, DVD2AVI, TV apps, ...)
- Your graphics card support YUV (YUY2 or UYVY) overlay. Sometimes a driver update helps.
- If your graphics card has little memory please try to reduce the resoulution/colordepth. Please note that changing the colordepth doesn't affect the image quality in YUV mode because the image will be draw using the corresponding YUV color space intead of the RGB color space.

Anyway there are some open issues which I will try to solve this weekend.

Best regards,
Tobias

[hofmetzger]

:confused: seems i was too quick. my procedure helped only in ogm's without subtitles. now i cant even remove the subtitlefilters.

but what worries me even more is the poor performance. sure i have dx8.1, as u have a hint on your page tobias, and without subtitlefilters "everything" works fine.
my graphicscard is a v3, so i depend on the work of voodoofiles.com, but i can't see why it works without subtitleDS and sucks with them installed.

btw: on my brothers pc wmp crashes if opening ogm with subtitelstream and filters installed...

@tobias: so imho it seems u have to concentrate on the subtitfilters...
but great work anyway!

[TobiasWaldvogel]

I've found the bug in the memory management and GraphEdit shouldn't crash anymore after updating to newest release.

I will check all the subtitle issues and give you and update asap.

BTW: If get the message the WMP tries to download a codec this usually indicates that the overlay mode is not available.

Best regards,
Tobias

[Rumata]

Originally posted by TobiasWaldvogel
BTW: If get the message the WMP tries to download a codec this usually indicates that the overlay mode is not available.

What's overlay mode ? How do I enable it ?

[TobiasWaldvogel]

Originally posted by Rumata

What's overlay mode ? How do I enable it ?

DirectShow uses automatically overlay mode if possible (at least with version 8.1). It depends on your graphics card whether overlay mode is available or not. (The amount of memory, your current resolution etc., driver). Overlay mode works as follows:

The application chooses the rectangle and a key color. Now the grahics card enlarges the video to fit in this rectangle. The big advantage is that now the graphics card does the time consuming resizing. In addition it's very easy to place any graphics "above" the video, because the application simply has to replace the key color with the desired color.