Subtitles problem

[Griniaris]

I have noticed what might be a problem with gknot when using subtitles in my films.
I usually like to have subtitles displayed with my film all the time so i burn them in the avi file.
I have noticed that when gknot encodes the credits part it also uses the subtitle file. As a result during the let's say 5 minute credits file the first 5 minutes of the subtitles are also displayed.
Is there any workaround here? It is not really that much of a problem but it is a bit annoying...
Maybe I should try to encode credits first myself without adding the sub files and then do the whole procedure to encode the rest of the movie with gknot and add the files...

[HellSpawn]

Hello my friend!!It is nice to see someone else from Greece in this forum.Now about your problem:what you are experiencing is a bug.There is no way to fix that.Try the following:have you noticed that the image quality around the subtitles is not as good as the rest of the movie?There is a great way to watch the subtitles without losing quality or having your problem.Strip the subtitles with vobsub but don't encode them on the movie.Put them on the same directory with your avi(the .sub and .idx files).Give them the name of your avi:e.x.Scary movie.idx,Scary movie.sub.Compress the .sub file in RAR format if you want.Burn all of these on your cd and every time you play the avi the subtitles will be there,crystal clear and not on the credits any more.I hope I helped!!!!See you!
:D

[hs]

Hi,

do I understand that right: you either want to encode the subtitles directly into the AVI or keep them as graphic-files ?

Why don't you convert them into a Textfile with Subrip and store them only as text in an appropriate format ? That takes less that 200 KB instead of several MB and your movie is in a perfect quality (and also other people might be very thankful for movies without subtitles they)
I prefer watching movies with subtitles with MicroDVD, but even the MS-Media-Player is capable of displaying subtitles from textfiles. If you want to know more about this, take a look at the guides here. If you don't find what you're looking for I can write you a small howto...

Oh, maybe I understand: There could be a problem with greek letter. Is that the problem ?

...HS

[Griniaris]

As hellspawn has allready stated it is a bug!
It has nothing to do with the greek fonts but with subtitle display when the file is burned in the avi during the credits play.
Gknot when starting to encode the credits(which is the first it does) it also starts to use the sub file assuming that the movie has started and does not understand that it is the credits part that is being encoded.
I suppose you are all right however that it is much better to have the sub file appart from the avi file so that one can either have or not subtitles.
Thanks for the concern...

Hellspawn: Nice to find a greek here too!!!!

[ovi]

this is not really a reply, more or less a question

-I saw you mentioned .sub files so I thought I ask my question here rather than making a new post.

I have an .avi file plus a .sub file containing the subtitles. what player can I use to playback the video+subtitles? (using winxp) and do I need additional codex, or stuff?

[HellSpawn]

What subtitle program have you used to extract the subtitles?If you used vobsub to do that then you already have what you need as long as the .sub file name is the same as the movie's.Try using the media player 6.4.0.2 version or bsplayer or powerdivx.One of them sould work;-)

[ovi]

i don't know what was used, as i did not encode this movie. and if i use mediaplayer 6.4.02 and place movie and subtitles in the same folder they will get loaded automatically? do i need an additional codec or sth. else?

p.s. i use media plyer 6.4.09.1125

[jggimi]

Subtitle files in .sub format may be of several different formats, even with that same file type. But DirectVobsub does manage a few of them.

You are likely to be able to display the subtitles with ANY DirectShow .avi player, such as Windows Media Player, merely by having DirectVobsub installed. All you need are the main .avi and the .sub file in the same directory, with the same name, for example:

Movie.avi
Movie.sub

If you've installed Gordian Knot, then you should have DirectVobsub installed. If not, download Vobsub from Doom9's software pages, and install the DirectVobsub component.

For more information, you can review the Subtitle guides at Doom9's web site.