How to get DVD2SVCD to work ?

[ts1898]

Hi,

I'm new to the DVD2SVCD. One problem I run into is the last step in the process, generating image (.BIN) from .MPG files. VCDImager has trouble with the 2nd .MPG file. The message is "ERROR: image is too big (472533 sectors > 449850 sectors)". Two .MPG files were generated, first one is about 800MB, the second is over 1GB. Why is the 2nd one so large. Please help.

Thanks,

Tom

[DDogg]

Please see "How to make a post" and give us the information requested

[thebeak40]

ts1898,

I hope you get back with that log file. I just had the same thing happen with a 1 pass vbr of u2 live in Boston. Second mpeg file was 1 gig as well.

I deleted the log file and switched to 3 cd CBR which is running now. The video is extremely grainy (artificially?) and this may have driven the vbr nuts but I dont know.

Hope you kept your log.

[ts1898]

Hi,

I attached the log below. I'm using a 1.2GHz P3-M system with w2k, and about 10 GB of free HDD space. I thought maybe it was running out the disk space, so I deleted some files and use command line VCDImager to generate a image file from the MPG file but it still failed. I really would like to know why bbMPEG made the 2nd .MPG file 1GB, which is probably the problem, as Nero would complain it doesn't fit on a CD.

Thanks in advance.

Tom

- 3/18/2002 2:42:07 AM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.7 build 4
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 3/18/2002 2:42:09 AM
- Analyzing subtitles
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Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x20 Language: English

Executing subtitle selection/verification.
Subtitle selection/verification cancelled.
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- 3/18/2002 2:43:15 AM
- Free on drive C: 11138.20 mb
- Internal rip
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Preparing vobfiles to be ripped:
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_2.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_3.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_4.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_5.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_6.vob

Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.vob
Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_2.vob
Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_3.vob
Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_4.vob
Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_5.vob
Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_6.vob
Ripping finished. Speed: 3027

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- 3/18/2002 3:12:29 AM
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -IA=1 -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VTS_03_1.vob,C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VTS_03_2.vob,C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VTS_03_3.vob,C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VTS_03_4.vob,C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VTS_03_5.vob,C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VTS_03_6.vob]
Analyzing DVD2AVI Project file
Force Film activated!
Framerate: 23976
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 3/18/2002 3:19:23 AM
- Free on drive C: 5957.22 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: 0 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 3/18/2002 3:27:47 AM
- Free on drive C: 5593.28 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Converting Audio to MP2. Filename: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal ) -ota( -g max ) -ssrc( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 128 -m s )
Audio conversion of C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 3/18/2002 4:04:01 AM
- Free on drive C: 5489.27 mb
- Converting Pictures
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Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultTitlepicture.bmp
Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
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- 3/18/2002 4:04:08 AM
- Free on drive C: 5488.27 mb
- Video Encoding using TMPGEnc
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- Encoding C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TitlePicture.bmp.avs
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.avs
Video Encoding finished.

Pointers: 3470
- Encoding Test Clip C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file_CQ_TEST.avs
StreamSectors: 1665085576
AudioSectors: 110538736
VideoPAPO: 24080760
ScanOffsetBytes: 196060
SeqAligningBytes: 12460677
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 600.00
PureMPEGStream: 1517809335.60
Seconds: 6816.44
CalcMPEGStream: 1517809335.60
Frames: 163383
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 795.00
Calculated Quality Value: 80.00
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding Test Clip C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file_CQ_TEST.avs
StreamSectors: 1665085576
AudioSectors: 110538736
VideoPAPO: 24080760
ScanOffsetBytes: 196060
SeqAligningBytes: 12460677
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 600.00
PureMPEGStream: 1517809335.60
Seconds: 6816.44
CalcMPEGStream: 1517809335.60
Frames: 163383
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 795.00
Test Clip: Got MB per Frame: 4967.968
Test Clip: Want MB per Frame: 9289.88533445952
Test Clip: CQ per Frame: 0.0161031633053997
Test Clip: New CQ value: 149.59654062924
Test Clip3: Calculated CQ value: 114.79827031462
Calculated Quality Value: 114.80
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding Test Clip C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file_CQ_TEST.avs
StreamSectors: 1665085576
AudioSectors: 110538736
VideoPAPO: 24080760
ScanOffsetBytes: 196060
SeqAligningBytes: 12460677
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 600.00
PureMPEGStream: 1517809335.60
Seconds: 6816.44
CalcMPEGStream: 1517809335.60
Frames: 163383
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 795.00
Test Clip: Got MB per Frame: 11737.0865
Test Clip: Want MB per Frame: 9289.88533445952
Test Clip: CQ per Frame: 0.00978081488234919
Test Clip: New CQ value: 90.8626487345992
Test Clip2: Calculated CQ value: 102.830459524609
Calculated Quality Value: 102.83
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding Test Clip C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file_CQ_TEST.avs
StreamSectors: 1665085576
AudioSectors: 110538736
VideoPAPO: 24080760
ScanOffsetBytes: 196060
SeqAligningBytes: 12460677
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 600.00
PureMPEGStream: 1517809335.60
Seconds: 6816.44
CalcMPEGStream: 1517809335.60
Frames: 163383
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 795.00
Test Clip: Got MB per Frame: 11773.8365
Test Clip: Want MB per Frame: 9289.88533445952
Test Clip: CQ per Frame: 0.00873381072725186
Test Clip: New CQ value: 81.1361001890423
Test Clip1: Calculated CQ value: 91.9832798568259
Calculated Quality Value: 91.98
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file.avs
StreamSectors: 1665085576
AudioSectors: 110538736
VideoPAPO: 24080760
ScanOffsetBytes: 196060
SeqAligningBytes: 12460677
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 600.00
PureMPEGStream: 1517809335.60
Seconds: 6816.44
CalcMPEGStream: 1517809335.60
Frames: 163383
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 795.00
Test Clip: Got MB per Frame: 9544.628
Test Clip: Want MB per Frame: 9289.88533445952
Test Clip: CQ per Frame: 0.00963717809188853
Test Clip: New CQ value: 89.5282794214099
Test Clip0: Calculated CQ value: 90.7557796391179
Using Quality Value: 95.19
Video Encoding finished.

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- 3/18/2002 3:07:22 PM
- Free on drive C: 3773.11 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TitlePicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 3/18/2002 3:07:25 PM
- Free on drive C: 3773.03 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 3/18/2002 3:07:28 PM
- Free on drive C: 3772.98 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2924 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 2926
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 3/18/2002 3:30:45 PM
- Free on drive C: 1932.13 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2926.289 seconds C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
3888.248 seconds C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Analyzing finished.

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- 3/18/2002 3:32:53 PM
- Free on drive C: 1932.11 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 13

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --cue-file="C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VCDXBuild_Script_1.xml"
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- 3/18/2002 3:39:23 PM
- Free on drive C: 1125.80 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 20

CD image #2: CD_Image_File_CD2.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --cue-file="C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VCDXBuild_Script_2.xml"
VCDXBuild failed to create a bin/cue file!
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- 3/20/2002 7:36:13 AM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.7 build 4
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 3/20/2002 7:36:21 AM
- Free on drive C: 6603.34 mb
- Crash Recovery
- Restarting from: SVCD Authoring
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- 3/20/2002 7:36:22 AM
- Free on drive C: 6603.34 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2926.289 seconds C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
3888.248 seconds C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Analyzing finished.

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- 3/20/2002 7:38:33 AM
- Free on drive C: 6603.34 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 13

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --cue-file="C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VCDXBuild_Script_1.xml"
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- 3/20/2002 7:45:01 AM
- Free on drive C: 6603.34 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 20

CD image #2: CD_Image_File_CD2.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --cue-file="C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VCDXBuild_Script_2.xml"
VCDXBuild failed to create a bin/cue file!

[Mozart]

hummm... this log is weird:
a)force film was activated, however pulldown was not used;
b)bbmpeg should merge and cut each file so that its maximum file size should be 800MB, however there is a bbmpeg*.mpg file with 1050MB;
c)The CQ value was completely miscalculated. It is hard to find the exact value, but it should not be so far wrong...

well... there are two things that you can do. Make your choice:
1)
a) run bitrate viewer to verify if the *.mpv file, used by bbmpeg, has a framerate equal to 23.97. If yes, run pulldown to "fix" the framerate. Have a look at pulldown folder to verify how to use it;
b) run dvd2svcd and chose "crash recovery -> muxing and spliting";
c) cut the biggest bbmpeg*.mpg into two equal peaces, using tmpeg->mpeg tools;
d) run vcdeasy to make the svcd images with bbmpeg*.mpg files;

2)
a) do the whole encoding again, using CCE.

[DDogg]

Pulldown is not run when TMPG is used as the encoder. Instead, the pulldown option is implemented in TMPG. D2S did this to save some time.

Also, the size projection for a tmpg CQ encode is not always accurate. What you can do in this case is increase the "frames per spread" and "spread" numbers. This will yield a more accurate size projection but at the expense of a longer projection cycle.

[Mozart]

he he... this info should be, at least, in readme.txt file.

As you can guess, I am not using tmpeg as dvd2svcd encoder. All my tmpeg tests in the past were done with some porno movies, which usually are 29.97 fps (pure NTSC):D

[Mozart]

@ddogg off topic

btw: did you see this tmpeg comparison (http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/articles/tmpgenc_test.html)

[DDogg]

@mozart, the guy used all the wrong techniques in TMPG. He used Automatic CQ VBR @ 28! I am surprised he even got a picture at all :)

[Mozart]

he he.. I saw that. However, the CQ value doesn´t matter, because he is doing a comparison between different versions of tmpeg, instead of between tmpeg and another encoder.
The thing that matter is the result: with the same CQ value, an older version of tmpeg has a better quality than version 2.53.
Another impressive result: the encoding done with motion estimation search -> normal is better than the MES -> high quality. This should not be true.