Major Problems Burning A VCD With Nero 5.5

[holyguacamole]

My *.mpg fits on an 80min CD-R HOWEVER I'm having troubles with the VCD working on any player after burning. Every time I've tried to burn .mpg's (in vcd format with no menu) with the latest version of Nero it just doesn't work!!! I checked my standalone dvd player's compatibility (Samsung DVD-M301) and it is definitely compatible with vcds (it even says vcd when I stick it in on the display), but it plays for about 2 seconds then all I hear is static and the picture freezes. I have wasted at least 10 CD-R's trying to figure it out! After trying and failing to do the menus/Imaging/burning(with CDRDao support) process altogether in TSCV 0.83 Beta 1 as well as VCDEasy v1.0.5 I gave up the menu option and tried to put just the plain .mpg format movie on Nero. I put it in the vcd mode, named it, and pressed burn (I've tried to finalizing it and un-finalizing it). If you can help I'd really like to figure this thing out FINALLY!

Thanks!

P.S. My burner is a TDK UE241040 veloCD 24x10x40 External USB 2.0 CD-RW Drive

[aleksander]

Did you try any other burning software???
Try making some .cue and .bin files with VCDImager and later try burning them with CDRWIN. Maybe this will help....

aleksander

[mitch1966]

I am using Nero 5.5.7.8 for VCD's and it works every time for me so Nero might not be the problem

[sharkey0903]

hi I too am new this, and cant get nero to burn bin files. Done it once, but ever since it just comes up "general error" and refuses to burn. Have tscv with cdrdao but dont think my drive is compatible with cdrdao..any help would be appreciated.

;)

Sharkey

[moogy]

i always had trouble with nero burning bin files, switched to cdrwin and never had the problem again

[sharkey0903]

tried cdrwin and it burned ok but wouldnt play. switched back to nero after recompiling and it worked fine. One of my clips was a menu mpeg and the sound file was only a second long, it has to be at least 4 seconds i think which is where the problem was. extended it a little and nero didnt grumble one bit ;)

[Mastro]

I have Nero 5.5.5.1 and works just fine for SVCD. Today I did an experiment for a friend: I created a VCD using the MPG file for SVCD (480x576 MPEG2 Video file). According to Nero it will report that it is a non compliant VCD of course. Anyhow the result is interesting. It will play on my computer (WINDVD 3.1) as VCD. It is recognized by my Amiosonic DVD player as a VCD but the video is just garbage. I'm just trying a guess, the same file will be perect if burned as SVCD instead. Did you try that?
regards
Mastro

[dragoman]

Hi,

First things first. Is your DVD player XVCD compliant? What I mean is can it support VCD's encoded outside of the "standard" format?

Standard format for VCD is 1150kps CBR, 352x240 NTSC, 224kb/sec audio bitrate.

If you're VCD is not in this format, there is a chance your player will be unable to play it.

(Note - VCD's encoded with settings different from the standard (i.e. higher bitrate, higher resolution, etc...) are called XVCD, or eXtended VCDs)

dragoman

[holyguacamole]

Thank you all for your suggestions but I may just be confused as to what I'm supposed to be putting on the vcd (or svcd)

I just put the .mpg and thats all in Nero 5.5.7.2 (in vcd format not svcd) and set the compilation info (with menu turned off) and burn

As I have said, later I tried burning using TSCV 0.83 Beta 1 AND VCDEasy v1.0.5 with CDRDao v1.1.5 support and neither worked although it didn't seem to have troubles burning...It just wouldn't play on any of the 3 dvd players I tried that I know to be compatible with vcds

To make the mpg I used:
smart ripper 2.41
dvd2avi
TMPGEnc & VFAPI 2.53 (in this I'd use NTSC video cd - the only weird thing i did was change the audio bitrate to 112 kbits/sec and used the template NTSC Basic MPEG-1 352x240 29.97fps CQ_VBR 50, Layer-2 44100Hz 112kbps. The reason I did this was because I was told it was the only way to fit movies over 80mins on an 80min cd-r.)

then I'd burn it

but it never worked on all 3 different burning techniques

I'm really confused about what I can do I'm very very new to this so the more you explain the better I'll understand
I'd try CDRWIN but I don't know which cue and bin files to burn on the cd...and if I burn the cue and bin files do I also burn the mpg?

SORRY!!! I told you I don't know this stuff...

thanks :)


P.S. Here is my DVD player's compatibility
it supports: CDR, CDRW, no DVD-R, DVD+RW, VCD, SVCD, no subs, tracks, no XVCD, no XSVCD, MP3, 320kbits, no miniDVD

[avih]

i don't see VCD on your dvd compatibility list... maybe u should try svcd with vcd resolution and framerate (sould be supported) such that it fits your cdr.

also, i suggest u encode several short clips (about 1 min each) with different configurations and burn ALL the mpeg files to a single cd (drag them all to nero at svcd mode). u will be able to choose which file to play during playback.

also, imho nero5.x and tmpegenc 2.x should be enough. they worked for me whenever i used them together.

good luck.

[holyguacamole]

oops It does support it...I skipped over it accidentally
anyways I got the compatibility list from herehttp://www.vcdhelp.com/dvdplayers.php?DVDnameid=364&Search=Search&#comments

also, i suggest u encode several short clips (about 1 min each) with different configurations and burn ALL the mpeg files to a single cd (drag them all to nero at svcd mode). u will be able to choose which file to play during playback.

I'm not sure if I understand this. Do you mean make a test cd-r using completely different mpeg files that I encode in TMPGEnc SEPERATELY with different templates and all? Then put the individual .mpgs on one cd-r in nero and burn?

I'll go try the SVCD format of the movie now...

thanks so much for all you peoples' help so far...maybe I'll figure this thing out soon :scared:

[avih]

Originally posted by holyguacamole
I'm not sure if I understand this. Do you mean make a test cd-r using completely different mpeg files that I encode in TMPGEnc SEPERATELY with different templates and all? Then put the individual .mpgs on one cd-r in nero and burn?

yes :)
it will save u much time and many cdr's :)
after u find the best format/template/etc just encode the whole film.

also, i suggest at least some of these test clips would be with REALLY low bitrate (i.e. around 500) just to make sure it's not a bitrate issue. (vcd and svcd have bitrate limitations due to the low speed of the dvd drive. 1x=~1150 for vcd and 2x=~2600 for svcd)

and one more thing. if u know that the cdr is going to be played on a device whist supports svcd, go for svcd only. svcd uses mpeg2 while vcd uses mpeg1. for the same bitrate/resolution/etc svcd will give better quality.

[holyguacamole]

I will try that test idea later

for now I just put the mpeg into nero on svcd format and a pop-up came up after nero scaned the file saying:

"The file is invalid, need MPEG-2 which was encoded for Super Video CD:
audio: 44.1kHz MPEG-1/2, layer 2;
stero/dual-channel/multi-channel
video: 480x480 at 29.97Hz or 480x576 at 25Hz

The following problems were found:
-MPEG-1 instead MPEG-2
-invalid video stream: 29.97 frames/second, 352x240 pixles

You are creating a Super Video CD1.0 compliant CD,
but the MPEG file is not suitable for such a disc.
How would you like to proceed?

TURN OFF STANDARD COMPLIANCE AND CONTINUE
RE-ENCODE THE VIDEO FILE
CANCEL"

I'll just try turning off the standard compliance as I tried the re-encode button and it said I don't have a license for that or something...oh well....

I'm sure this problem will come up again when I do the test CD so what should I do then if I'm to burn a SVCD....or should I just go ahead and do that in VCD format instead?

[holyguacamole]

Nevermind! That putting it as SVCD format actually worked!! I LOVE YOU!!! haha

I'm so happy now you wouldn't believe...I've been trying to figure this out for over a month now :D :D :D