GKnot Problems

[LNielsen76]

Which is the best O.S. to use with GKnot?

I have use both Millenium and XP with little and no success respectively. GKnot seems to make both O.S.s unstable and will not complete a second pass in Millenium or create a valid .d2v project file in XP.

In Millenium, GKnot locks up my O.S. at varying points in the two-pass encoding process. Usually at the beginning of the first or the beginning of the second.

In XP, GKnot crashes after first pass using .d2v project files created under Millenium. .d2v project files created anew under XP consistently give me a "Error: Not a valid .d2v file!"

I am at a loss with this software and not sure what the problem might be. I have had only two successes in 15-20 attempts.

1st Success: Blow Out (4.2Gig)- my first attempt under Millenium.
2nd Success: 1st half of Gladiator (4.5Gig)- my first attempt under XP using a .d2v project file created under Millenium.

I had a second .d2v project file created under Millenium for the second half of Gladiator and tried to run in XP with no success. GKnot simple desisted to respond.

I recreated the .d2v project files for both first and second halves of Gladiator under XP and both came up as Invalid .d2v Project Files. Could not open them in GKnot.

Millenium - GKnot crashes and locks up O.S.
XP- GKnot (DVD2AVI) will not created valid project files and O.S. becomes unstable.

Help...please.

LN76

[manono]

Hi-

Sorry about your problems. It's enough to make you wanna quit before even getting started. All I can say is no problems here with XP or Win 98. Did you install the whole Rip Pack (as opposed to piecing it together from individual softs)? Only one version of DVD2AVI works with Gknot. Maybe reinstall the whole thing (the rippack and the update).

[LNielsen76]

I am thinking that maybe my version was corrupted in the download or that I am having some hardware incompatibility problems running two hard drives. I am not sure. The funny thing is I can't get Flaskmpeg to work without locking up my system either.

I did the v.21 FULL install with the v.23 undate and still no luck. Ran it again last night under XP and this time it locked up my O.S. (the O.S. that is not supposed to lock up!)

I already formatted my drive twice. I give it one more try and reload Millenium and download GKnot again.

Thanks for the reply.

[jggimi]

I've had no problems with ME or W2K. So it's not the operating systems, per se. It might be a hardware driver issue for your particular configuration ...

[Aiorus]

I think that you have a Hardware problem. I encode in both WinMe and Xp and don't have any problems , let alone lock ups...Maybe you should check your memory with a memory checker program.

[Tektol]

@LNielsen76:

i am experiencing the same problems. i have just came across this site and GKnot yesterday. 3 tries to encode Star Trek - Insurrection (great film btw ;) did not succeed. until now i have only done the ripping + encoding process in winxp. nevertheless i dont see a point trying it in win98 because i tried flaskmpeg before on both operating systems on my computer and both times it froze it up! i as well believe this is a hardware respectively driver problem. so my suggestion is to compare our configurations so maybe we can isolate the problem (but keeping in mind there are infinate possible configurations that might cause a lock up, maybe not ;)
so here is my pc:

asus a7v mainboard with a via kt133 chipset first revision
2 x 128 mb sdram
800 mhz athlon thunderbird b
2 hdds: one 40gb ibm and one 20gb fujitsu drive (dont know the exact names)
one isdn card from avm
two network adapters (one d-link, one no-name)
a creative labs pci 128 soundcard
a pioneer slot in 16x dvd drive
a plextor 16x cd writer

[Tektol]

@LNielsen76:

i am experiencing the same problems. i have just came across this site and GKnot yesterday. 3 tries to encode Star Trek - Insurrection (great film btw ;) did not succeed. until now i have only done the ripping + encoding process in winxp. nevertheless i dont see a point trying it in win98 because i tried flaskmpeg before on both operating systems on my computer and both times it froze it up! i as well believe this is a hardware respectively driver problem. so my suggestion is to compare our configurations so maybe we can isolate the problem (but keeping in mind there are infinate possible configurations that might cause a lock up, maybe not ;)
so here is my pc:

asus a7v mainboard with a via kt133 chipset first revision
2 x 128 mb sdram
800 mhz athlon thunderbird b
2 hdds: one 40gb ibm and one 20gb fujitsu drive (dont know the exact names)
one isdn card from avm
two network adapters (one d-link, one no-name)
a creative labs pci 128 soundcard
a pioneer slot in 16x dvd drive
a plextor 16x cd writer
using winxp and win98 as operating systems
latest drivers installed (most importantly chipset drivers and graphics cards drivers are latest version)
besides i havent got a filled up harddisk, there are not too many programs installed on my xp box
running programs in the background: f-secure anti virus program and analog-x proxy server

hope we find a solution ;)

Tolga

[LNielsen76]

I have just updated my chpset drivers and working on video drivers. I have not had a chance to repass anything for conversion but will let you know how it goes.

Check out this website for VIA chpset drivers:

www.viaarena.com

I have an AMD chpset.
AMD Athlon 950 Mhz processor
Nvidia GeForce 3 32Mb
2 HD (1-40Gb 1-30Gb)
16x Sony DVD
24x16x40x CDRW
384MB SDRam Mem Simple Tech
Creative Soundblaster Audio

I work for Vision Computers Inc and spoke with some of the Techs. They advised me to update my chpset drivers if I was experiencing a HARDLOCK (cannot move mouse). They said if the problem is not resolved, it is possible that the problem is not with drivers being outdated and moreso that there may be a hardware problem. They did not specify how to test for any hardware failures.

At first I had problems with my drives turning off. I had to change my power scheme.

All HD's are alphebetical as well as DVD is last or G:

I have my DVD slave to my D: drive and my CDRW slave to my C:

Running WIN XP.

Let you know how my next attempts go with the new drivers.

[diji1]

Hi,

if u have overclocked memory try turning it down to normal speed. also try switching ram modules around - if u are running more than one remove all bar one and see if it helps.

[facts]

Definately clock your memory back down, i would crash at fsb 135, also the program seems to be unstable in general. Hope this is fixed in the next version.

[Tektol]

ok hi again.

i have figured out the reason for my lock up. my cpu was heating up to 70 degrees celsius ;) after installing a selfmade cooler (combined a copper cooler with a papst fan) there are no problems anymore. the encoding process went almost to its end. would have ended successfully, if i hadnt run out of harddisk space hehe...
a heat problem was probable for my problem, because my pc didnt freeze at the same part of the process all the time. once it did it at 3%, then at 21% and so on. so if that is true for you as well, i would check the temperature directly after the lock up in the bios.
acceptable temperature range for your cpu is about 30-40 degrees celsius.

regards,

Tolga

[LNielsen76]

How do you clock back your Memory?

I just update my AMD Chpset drivers and was able to complete an encoding session. I am yet skeptical because I have not tried consecutive passes yet. If I am able to get at least 3 consecutive encoding successes, I will say the problem is solved.

Just in case I haven't corrected the problem, I would like to know how to clock back my memory and how to check my system temp (be it I need another fan)?

I hope all works well. Wish me luck!

LN76

[manono]

Hi-

If you've never changed your memory settings in the BIOS, then there's nothing to reset.

If you didn't get a monitor program with your motherboard so you could check the temps, then you might look for Motherboard Monitor (free). It works on many but not all motherboards.

As for fans, assuming you're not overclocked, a front intake fan, an exhaust fan (the powersupply fan will do), and the CPU fan should be enough. You might check to see if the CPU fan is working, and that the heatsink is sitting properly.

Edit: Unless I misunderstood what you wrote above, you definitely should not have your optical drives on the same channels as your hard drives. The hard drives should be Master and Slave on one channel, and the DVD-ROM and CD-RW should be Master-Slave on the other (unless you have more than 2 IDE channels)..

[theReal]

I have the FSB at 144MHz, but no encoding tool, including Gknot, ever made any problems, both on win98 se and win2k.

I only overclock as far as my system still runs stable. That means I run Prime 95 and when it runs for several hours with no errors, I can be pretty sure the system is stable.

I'd try running the Prime torture test: even non-overclocked systems can be unstable due to weaknesses in memory/mainboard or just due to high temperatures.

[Tektol]

just in case you still wonder how "exactly" you do those:

when you are in the bios you possibly got something like advanced chipset blah or cpu setup

the temp you can watch in a menu usually called hardware monitor

happy ripping ;)

Tolga

[theReal]

acceptable temperature range for your cpu is about 30-40 degrees celsiusI just stumbled over this. For Athlon CPU's the acceptable range is 30-60°C, everything under 50°C is very good.

Problems usually start at about 65°C. I have never heard of anyone having problems with an Athlon because it was fifty-something degrees.

[rui]

My AMD Xp is at 148 bus speed, it heats till 55º when encoding, and i never ever had any problems with Gnot til today, and the mark is over 70 movies and counting.

Gnot, and the programs associated with it are very very stable, if anyone is having problems with instability, first him/her should check his system, most likely the failure is coming from there.

[LNielsen76]

Thanks alot for all the suggestions and info!!
I have just completed my second encoding session without any problems.

I was wondering about the slaving of my DVD and CDROM drives to my HD's respectively. Why is it a problem? and what are the symptoms?

I slaved my drives the way I did because I was told it would help the DVD and CDROM run faster, but my sources may be wrong.

What should I look for in my current setup as a result of my current configuration?

Thanks much.

LN76

[manono]

Hi-

I slaved my drives the way I did because I was told it would help the DVD and CDROM run faster

No-it will help your Hard Drives to run slower. They will run at the speed of the slower of the two peripherals on the channel. So if your DVD-ROM is ATA-33 for example, and your hard drive is ATA-66 or 100, you've just slowed the hard drive down to ATA-33. The way to find out is with something like HD Tach which tests their speeds.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong-this is not really my speciality. The PC Hardware Forum might be a good place to confirm this.