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Xenobyte99
12th March 2002, 02:13
Hey i made a real nice dvd project with dvd maestro but i cant for the life of me figure out how to make an audio track that plays when the title menu loads up play throughout ALL MENU SELECTIONS continuously and not restart everytime the menu changes. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

easy2Bcheesy
12th March 2002, 17:43
This is totally impossible to achieve within the DVD spec, no matter what DVD authoring tool you use. Take a look at any commercially available DVD and you'll see the same problem.

It's a bit of a pisser isn't it?

Xenobyte99
12th March 2002, 21:52
That is a pisser! You know what else i found? Im not sure if it is specific to dvd maestyro or not but evertime i add the same exact song for a menu it adds it to the DVD again!! Why cant it just link to the same song and thus not take up more space! How gay!

Jestorius
12th March 2002, 22:03
Did you see The Perfect Storm? It is just perfect - how to make a amimated menu. It uses sound effect and a flashing animation. You don't need much more. The end user is not staying there and watching the endless motion menu, they gonna select something and back to the action. To make an elevator background music to your menu it is ... what can I say...

But the option you mention could make me happy, but we don't have it so just design your menu regarding to all the limitations in the authoring software.

Xenobyte99
12th March 2002, 22:50
Does all authoring software put the IDNETICAL music on as many times as it is play called? Or is there software that actually conserves space.

Jestorius
12th March 2002, 23:01
I guess yes. I didn't tried all of them but all has a problem with this. I don't know maybe it's oss who is the problem. The music starts playin again even if you are still on the same menu after a selection has made. Funny. Pinnacle try to fix it, I don't know what the others gonna fix.

auenf
13th March 2002, 03:21
heres an option, use music that is rather repetitive, then when going from one menu to another, it doesnt sound like it starts again, cause its just playing the same basic bars over and over.

if done properly, i would think it would actually work very nicely, i might have to try that too (im going to be busy trying stuff in maestro tonight)

Enf...

Xenobyte99
13th March 2002, 08:43
No go. Using ENYA'S may it be for my lord of the rings project.., its finished anyway.. made it real nice with character pics and images from the web and chapter selections with snapshots.. i have it all rard actually its just under 4.7

Areku
13th March 2002, 09:46
Although this method is quite rudimentary, I do it with my DVD conversions (i fit 2 hollywood dvds onto 1 dvdr):

I open GoldWave (or anyother wav recording program) and start PowerDVD. Once I launch the DVD menu of the original movie, I set goldwave to start recording and then import the loop onto theMaestro project.

Results are quite stunning.

Still dunno how to extract background motion menus from movies to inster them onto maestro.

Any1?

easy2Bcheesy
13th March 2002, 15:20
Originally posted by Xenobyte99
Does all authoring software put the IDNETICAL music on as many times as it is play called? Or is there software that actually conserves space.

No, again this is because of the DVD spec, not the authoring software. The way a VOB works is by constantly running in new video and audio data simultaneously. You can't ask it to run in the video data from one part of the disk and the audio from another. It's not the way DVD works.

It's a pain for sure.

Xenobyte99
14th March 2002, 00:39
What a stinky wasteful way to index multimedia on a dvd. I hopt the next new format fixes it

GlenC
14th March 2002, 01:11
How else is it supposed to do it?

It's not a hard drive, and adding additional buffers into the hardware would make it a lot more expensive!

Glen.

Xenobyte99
14th March 2002, 02:36
buffers schmuffers.. Just have a menu that plays the same song as another menu go to that sector of the disc and read it.. the same sector everytime

Arky
14th March 2002, 02:41
You could just author the disk so as to play the menu music once and then just end in permanent silence, until you re-navigate to the menu the next time. Do this by setting an infinite length, using the "timeout" control in the Maestro Menu Editor. Personally, I find no difficulty in creating (almost) seamless music- it just takes practice, and a little patience. Another compromise is to just gently fade the music in and out, so the seam becomes less obtrusive.


Arky ;o)

auenf
14th March 2002, 03:49
Originally posted by Areku
Although this method is quite rudimentary, I do it with my DVD conversions (i fit 2 hollywood dvds onto 1 dvdr):

I open GoldWave (or anyother wav recording program) and start PowerDVD. Once I launch the DVD menu of the original movie, I set goldwave to start recording and then import the loop onto theMaestro project.

Results are quite stunning.

Still dunno how to extract background motion menus from movies to inster them onto maestro.

Any1?

try looking in ALL the vobs, including the _0.vob files as well, menus usually hide in there.

Enf...

Areku
14th March 2002, 11:22
I do know ALL of the menus and music/video loops reside in the _0.vts file, problem is how to extract each of the stuff and demux it accordingly...

stefanpson
24th March 2002, 00:33
Ok, this was a bit hard to figure out, but try to do it like this:

Use Vstrip:

1. Input: "Add" your VTS_XX_0.VOB file

2. IFO: "..." your VTS_XX_0.IFO file

3. Output: "..." your ripped output file
*Split: By Cell-ID

Then mark the "First" videostream, usually way down in the left list...Mine is "0xE0 (Video Stream 0)"

And press "RUN"

You will then get All the menus nicely split in singel files.

I used BBDMUX to Demux them afterwards... So you can import them to Maestro. :)

Good luck

Areku
25th March 2002, 02:28
I actually found out that VOBRator would do that into a single step (Demux _0.vob ;))

Tippy
31st October 2002, 19:58
I've been messing with menu music for awhile and noticed the same thing about stop/start. However I'd be interested to know the various methods you guys use to convert audio from say a cd, into something maestro likes and sounds good.:sly: