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hyperion
10th March 2002, 00:15
Firstly i haven't any expe. with Divx4.
Taken from Xvid help:
'If the average quantizer in 2nd pass is e.g. 3.7, you should use .h263 quantization type, if 2.5 it's better to use MPEG quant type on first pass.'

Three questions/suggestion to this fine manual/Guide

Where to find those values.. (2.5/3.7):confused:

'If you use low bitrates, .h263 quant type is you choice'

Low bitrate = 200-500 or 500-1000 or?:confused:

Perhaps a little more about this option .h263 or MPEG quant and when to use what. (in conversion from DVD/AVI/MPEG)in the manual...

Tks for making it ...:)

And if this is stupide questions/sugges. Bare with me as I have made a jump from Divx3.11 to Xvid...

Regards
Kurt

Teegedeck
11th March 2002, 00:49
Originally posted by hyperion
Firstly i haven't any expe. with Divx4.
Taken from Xvid help:
'If the average quantizer in 2nd pass is e.g. 3.7, you should use .h263 quantization type, if 2.5 it's better to use MPEG quant type on first pass.'

Three questions/suggestion to this fine manual/Guide

Where to find those values.. (2.5/3.7):confused:

Hi Kurt,

I have to admit I don't know that either. ;)
Could be a function of Koepi's .stats-file-reader that I've never used (I should be ashamed, but on the other hand I believe Koepie has never used GKnot and not ashamed of it either. :))

'If you use low bitrates, .h263 quant type is you choice'

Low bitrate = 200-500 or 500-1000 or?:confused:

In the end, this isn't about bitrates but about the quantizers. Quantizers above 4 tend to look better if they are h.263, not MPEG-quantizers. As a rule of thumb, use h.263 if you're aiming for one CD, and MPEG if aiming for two. Or download Koepi's XviD-compile and use 'modulated' quantizers, i.e. it switches from MPEG to h.263, automatically at quant 4. Isn't that in the guides somewhere?
Ta-dah.

ARDA
11th March 2002, 00:57
I imagine you all are joking,but if you are not.
Quantization tuning Mininum quantizer 3 maximum 7
You should read 3 to 7 :)

Teegedeck
11th March 2002, 02:29
Pardon? Come again? :confused:

hyperion
12th March 2002, 01:13
Tks for your help.. I think i have got it now...

1) Make a first pass with H.263...

2) Choose 2 pass int. and change to modulated. and enter videosize in desired file size...

Right...

Koepi
12th March 2002, 01:20
Jupps.
It's just about some theory that might or might not work.
It shouldn't make any difference which quant type you choose on first pass... but for 99.9999% of all cases .h263 would work as expected. As I wrote as well in the XOE, this matter is still to investigate.

Best regards,
Koepi

hyperion
12th March 2002, 01:31
Tks for the speedy response..

Nice to be confirmed,

And to those using nandub and reading this. I can tell that the quality of my encoding using xvid rules...

Keep up the great work..

Best regards
Kurt (former newbie:p)