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AmNeSia
2nd March 2002, 17:21
I have been editing video for a few weeks now with my Sony DV-Camera (MiniDV tape) and rendering [after editing] the final product back to spare tapes to keep the quality of the finished product as high as possible. The problem with this is the cost of the DV tapes for the amount of video’ing and archiving I’m in need of is simply not possible. Therefore some other suitable solution is required to store high quality video on CD-R that in the future can be ported over to DVD-R discs when it becomes a more affordable solution.

I presume that for such archiving purposes DivX or MPEG2 would be the way to go, but alas I am uncertain of the actual settings to use to keep both the quality as high as possible and the filesize to a minimum.

Ideally I would like to keep PAL 720x576 video stored in some method other than standard DV, possibly an hour or so of high quality video split on 2 CDs. I have all of the main encoders (CCE 264, LSX 1.5, TMPGEnc) but have been concentrating on CCE as I believe this is the better of the bunch. However, I am in need of settings that keep the quality high and the size of the files to a minimum.. and then to be sure that I can create this video back to DVD-R using something like DVDit ..

I've tried and tried using various settings.. but some help would really help as the late hours of trying to hunt down a workable solution seems to be running away from me... or if someone has some other information that would be handy it would help a lot..

andyg
2nd March 2002, 20:20
Hi, I'm after the same thing myself. Have nice DVD camcorder & don't want to invest in DVD-R yet (don't want to get stuck with wrong DVD format since they let customer choose the format).
Here is what I found out:
MINI-DVD - best quality video (NTSC in my case) will fit only aprox.
15 minutes video on reg. CD-R. The bad thing You can play
it back on PC (99% stand alone DVD will NOT play it).
SVCD - best quality video settings will allow to fit aprox.
30 min. on reg CD-R. It will play on many DVD players
(please check www.vcdhelp.com for compatability) and the
quality is great.
VCD - best quality video settings will allow to fit aprox.
60 min. and it will play on most DVD players. As far as
quality goes? It's O.K, some people like it, some don't
but it gives You good VHS quality - judge for Yourself.
BACK-UP tape - This will let You store any video format for better
times ( 20GB tapes or more).

What do You think?
Andy.

AmNeSia
2nd March 2002, 20:31
I've had a look at creating SVCD video using almost all of the encoders and have yet to be pleased with any of the results. It seems that because of the way DV is captured by general DV Camcorders (in this case a Sony DCR-PC9) the quality is never going to be as impressive as one would have liked. On the other hand DVD->SVCD seems to translate quite well (infact, exceptional quality) so its a pain in the backside why the same can't be said of DV->SVCD.

It seems a fact tha CCE 2.xx is the encoder to use for the ultimate high quality video so its a case of finding out the best method to create the smallest possible file with the highest possible video quality .. at least some form of acceptable method that can be used for archiving purposes for when DVD-Burners become a reality to the mass market..HELP [someone.....] :confused:

Arky
3rd March 2002, 21:29
www.RobShot.com

http://www.geocities.com/stanwebber/


Arky ;o)

mikeathome
4th March 2002, 11:15
Hi,

Robshot is not really ideal for DV Content try this:

http://www.mb1.de.vu/ -> Special: DV -> XSVCD

This will give great results.

mike

Arky
6th March 2002, 15:14
http://www.doom9.org/mpg/cce-advanced.htm


Arky ;o)