which is the real one ?

[StainlessS]

Hi guys,
When you on occasion get a BD disk with bucket loads of supposed main movie 'segments' (dont know what else to call them),
how do you tell which is the real one.

You might get a disk with 15+ similar-ish possible main movie segments,
parts or whatever, but how can you tell which is the real one. (could be hundreds)
VLC via MakeMKV stuff seems to just target the longer time track,
but that dont always work (Does mostly).

Is there a way to tell which is the real track of maybe 100 tracks.

EDIT: they do the exact same thing on DVD as well, eg Angelina Jolie SALT thingy. (one of the UK versions)
EDIT: Sorry for my lack of vocabulary, i dont got much clue what I am taklin' bout.
EDIT: just come in from pub, I could be a bit pissed, but not as pissed as I would like to be.
Is there anybody out there can 'draw together' something sensible out of my 'fluff'.
(No offense intended to TheFluff, if that enitity currently exists)

I would however like some kind of answer to this question, [EDIT: if possible].

[Columbo]

DGDemux is a useful tool in this regard. I open the disk and look at the MPLS list. You're looking for an MPLS with a typical movie length and an appropriate number of chapters. The list is sorted by time so the good MPLS is near the top. Then click on the candidate MPLS and make sure the M2TS list looks OK, e.g., it's not just a repeated list of the same M2TS. You can also use the preview function as needed to verify the entire MPLS or each M2TS as needed.

So that's how I would identify the MPLS. If you actually meant you know the MPLS but don't know what tracks to choose that's a different problem. Let me know if that's what you meant and give the track list that has you flummoxed.

[StainlessS]

Oh god, I feel like my head is full of cotton wool :(
Skin full o' beer [Abbot Ale @ 5.0%ABV I think] and a 1/4 bottle of dark rum.
[EDIT: Landlord told me that they will have Abbot Reserve in house today @ 6.5%ABV, I love that one, best ever tasting ale]

Here is image from MakeMKV, showing loads of 32GB tracks, all with same duration and chapters. [different segment maps]
https://i.postimg.cc/8jscNqJ9/mkv.jpg (https://postimg.cc/8jscNqJ9)

Title information
Name: John Wick 3: Parabellum
Source file name: 00001.mpls
Duration: 2:10:45
Chapters count: 16
Size: 32.0 GB
Segment count: 19
Segment map: 505,514,512,502,517,506,501,508,509,518,503,507,520,510,519,511,504,515,516
File name: John Wick 3- Parabellum_t00.mkv

above for track 0,
here track 1

Title information
Name: John Wick 3: Parabellum
Source file name: 00006.mpls
Duration: 2:10:45
Chapters count: 16
Size: 32.0 GB
Segment count: 19
Segment map: 505,514,512,502,517,520,515,518,501,509,508,504,519,511,503,507,510,506,516
File name: John Wick 3- Parabellum_t01.mkv


I just got yesterday morning a 2nd hand Pioneer BDP-LX08 BD player [although seller said "Pioneer Bdp-330"], looked quite small in images, but its a bit bigger than I would have liked.
I was hoping that maybe there would be some indication of the track playing in the player menu, but have not as yet tried switch it on.
I've never owned a BD player before, (I dont have a TV).

I'll take a peek at DGDemux, thankyou

I normally use VLC (with MAKEMKV support and libs) to have quick look at BD, but it just seems to select the longest duration track, sometime the wrong one.

EDIT: For DVD, I normally find the times are [usually] all different and so can tell correct one [but above, all same].

[Columbo]

Well, makemkv apparently doesn't give enough info to choose properly. That's why I mentioned DGDemux.

Instead of saving to MKV save to directory. Then you open the directory in DGDemuxGUI. It will be able to tell you everything you need. Then you demux what you want and remux to MKV.

I drink only 8% beer. It does the needful more efficiently. A 24 oz Max Ice is only $1.70. One can = good buzz. Don't know if you can get it in the UK. Maybe it's too low class for you. Are you a beer snob? No offense (note spelling).

[StainlessS]

It will be able to tell you everything you need.
Thanx, sounds just exactly what I need.

I drink only 8% beer.
A tad strong for my taste, although I did in past sample Carlsberg Special Brew @ [I think] 9%, and Tennents Super lager at about the same %.
Another fav brew of mine is Fuller's ESB (Extra Special Bitter), not sure on strength, I kinda like any Porter (black beer with little head, famous in Charles Dickens type novels).

I have had and liked some Labatt beer, but dont know which I had,
Google [ Labatt "Max ice" site:.co.uk ] brings up nothing, so looks like aint available in the UK. [except an ad for Labatt glassware]

thanx again.

[Columbo]

You are most welcome sir.


Another fav brew of mine is Fuller's ESB (Extra Special Bitter), not sure on strength, I kinda like any Porter (black beer with little head, famous in Charles Dickens type novels). Yanks aren't big on bitter but I lived in England for 8 years and developed a taste for. I'll see if I can find those ones you mentioned here in Chi-town. Is Porter like Guinness? Does Guinness give more head, err, I mean have more head.

[StainlessS]

Yep, Guinness gives more head.
Porter head tends to drop quickly.

There are many flavoured Porters, My fav is Dark-Star(brewery) Espresso, a coffee flavoured porter.
Chocolate porter is quite nice [in moderation, else a bit sickly], but I dont care for Plum Porter (leaves a funny tast in your mouth).
Not as sweet/smooth tasting as eg guinness or other stouts.
EDIT: Luddite is a liquorice flavoured Porter (lovely).

From Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porter_(beer)

Porter (beer)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A glass of porter, showing characteristic dark body [ # Whereever did they get that head from. Flat as a mill pond after two mintues, usually. ]
https://i.postimg.cc/rKGR6YVH/Amager-Rugporter-(4941931513).jpg (https://postimg.cc/rKGR6YVH)

Porter is a style of beer that was developed in London in the early 18th century.
It is well-hopped and dark in appearance owing to the use of brown malt.
The name is believed to have originated from its popularity with porters.

Porter became the first beer style brewed around the world, being produced in Ireland, North America, Sweden, and Russia by the end of the 18th century.

The history of stout and porter are intertwined.
The name "stout", used for a dark beer, came about because strong porters were marketed as "stout porter",
later being shortened to just stout.
Guinness Extra Stout was originally called "Extra Superior Porter" and was not given the name "Extra Stout" until 1840.
Today, the terms stout and porter are used by different breweries almost interchangeably to describe dark beers, and have more in common than in distinction.



United States

Porter was being commercially brewed in the United States in the 18th century, especially in New England and Pennsylvania.
After the introduction of lagers in the United States in the 1850s, breweries began brewing their porters with lager yeast
rather than a top-fermenting one. In addition, these American porters often included adjuncts such as maize, molasses, and Porterine.
Porterine was developed in America as a brewer's tool, added in the wort of lighter beers, to add color and flavour to emulate that of a porter.
Porterine is made from the slow cooking of corn syrup, which concentrates the sugars in the substance.
With this concentration comes the caramel-like color and consistency of Porterine.
With the advent of the craft brewing movement, many microbreweries produce porters and stouts with traditional methods, as well as the American techniques.