MPC-HC: Maximum Quality

[Bily]

Hello

I'm using MPC-HC to watch movies with MadVR and SmoothVideo Project for maximum quality.

Are there any other features besides those mentioned above to get the best possible video quality?

And audio? I use Hesuvi + Equalizer APO to get 5.1 stereo sound on headphones.
Is there any feature I can add to get the full potential when watching movies?

Thank you

[GeoffreyA]

I haven't tried SVP, but arguably, if one's MPC-HC and MadVR chain is set up correctly (https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1709584#post1709584), that should give "transparent" quality, in the sense that nothing is degrading the picture substantially. The other side would be display calibration (http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/).

[Bily]

Is there a software program that can be installed on the MPC-HC that:

makes blacks blacker?

and helps remove compression noise?

regarding audio:

any feature that enhances the sound of just the voice? Without altering the rest of the audio (music, sounds)?

thanks

[GeoffreyA]

In MadVR, under Colour & Gamma, you can try modifying gamma by raising the number. Your GPU software might have useful controls too. For my part, after adjusting the display with tests such as Lagom, I find the screen too bright, so have modified gamma across Windows for a darker desktop. It's inaccurate but agreeable to the eyes. Most IPS monitors are set too bright, leading to excessive backlight glow, but in terms of black levels, can't compete with OLED.

Useful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njX2bu-_Vw4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3E6PrJsXyo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_correction#Simple_monitor_tests

Colour temperature is worth adjusting because it affects the picture visibly. Generally, you'll want 6500K. My screen is between 5500K and 6000K, according to an Android app. Other times, it reads higher. There's a faint tincture of yellowness and redness.

For removing compression noise, try Artifact Removal under Processing.

Regarding audio, if voice is too soft relative to the environment, you could try adjusting audio settings under Internal Filters in MPC-HC. See Audio Decoder. Dialogue is mostly in the centre channel, so perhaps mix that higher. A filter or plug-in that does EBU R 128 normalisation could help. Not sure about playback ones. Lower the LRA between 10 and 14.

[Bily]

Aren't there resources external to MadVR that perform these functions with better quality?

[GeoffreyA]

Not too familiar apart from GPU controls, but am sure there are.

[Bily]

Artificial intelligence recommended:

Against noise: an external filter such as KrigBilateral or NNEDI3 + deband (via Avisynth/DirectShow),
before MADvr.

KrigBilateral

It's a noise reduction filter based on advanced spatial processing.

It works frame-by-frame and sometimes subframe-by-frame, analyzing pixel neighborhoods to smooth out noise without losing much detail.

NNEDI3 + deband

NNEDI3 is an upscaling and detail reconstruction algorithm used primarily to interpolate pixels or enhance fine lines in 720p/1080p videos.

Deband is a separate filter that smooths gradients, eliminating banding.

Is it worth it if I have a VGA card that can handle it?

Thanks

[Sunspark]

I don't think it is. Different algorithms affect image quality differently, plus you have to take into consideration the amount of power they use along with the commensurate noise. If the fans are whirring away loudly, it's not worth it for me.

[huhn]

most avisynth stuff runs on the CPU so a better GPU does nothing and none of the ones named there is doing anything about noise.

krigbiliteral is just the name of the mpv version of biliteral which madVR can use and is just a dangerous chroma scaler... which has nothing todo with noise.

nnedi3 is still in madVR and is an deinterlacer used as an image scaler in madVR what that has todo with noise yet again is beyond me...

a deband filter has nothing todo with denosing again... and madVR has a very good one build in whihc is yet another avisynth port...

which GPU can't handle biliteral and the deband filter or even nnedi3?


madVR has remove random noise filter that is used to remove well noise.

[Bily]

So are these filters unnecessary?
Or do they at least slightly improve 1080p movies with upscaling to 4K?

Do you recommend any external resources to use with MadVR, even if the improvement is small?

Thanks

[huhn]

everything named is in madVR just use the one in madVR.

[Bily]

everything named is in madVR just use the one in madVR.

I'm using SVP - SmoothVideo Project and I'm noticing good improvements.

Is there a feature in MadVR that has the same functionality as SVP? Which one? How do I configure it? Is this feature better than SVP?

Thanks.

[huhn]

no the ai didn't name SVP.

[Bily]

no the ai didn't name SVP.

I'm sorry

I didn't understand your answer.

[Asmodian]

I didn't understand your answer.

You post wtih the AI recommendations does not recommend the feature SVP implements. huhn's statement was not intended to include SVP.

If you like SVP use it with madVR.

[Bily]

You post wtih the AI recommendations does not recommend the feature SVP implements. huhn's statement was not intended to include SVP.

If you like SVP use it with madVR.


Is there a feature in MadVR that has the same functionality as SVP? Which one? How do I configure it? Is this feature better than SVP?
Is it more processing-intensive than SVP?

Thanks

[huhn]

still the same answer no. madVR can only remove judder from frame rate mismatches that's not frame interpolation like SVP.

[Alexkral]

Is there a feature in MadVR that has the same functionality as SVP? Which one? How do I configure it? Is this feature better than SVP?
Is it more processing-intensive than SVP?

Thanks

No, madVR can't do frame interpolation. Just use SVP with RIFE if your GPU can afford it, AND you don't mind distorted frames during scene changes too much.

Regarding HeSuVi, you should know that any HRIR degrades sound quality. What degrades quality the most is the amount of reverb. I know it sounds more spacious, but I wouldn't recommend any HRIR with the + sign in its name, maybe for movies, and again, if you don't mind that too much. For multichannel music, you should definitely use an HRIR with the - sign in its name.