Log in

View Full Version : iuVCR and Driver Question / Problem


SuperGood
28th February 2002, 09:11
Hi,

To start, I have a ATI TV WONDER PCI (not VE), running on Windows XP Pro. I have an 850 mhz proccessor, 256MB ram, and a 60gb 7200RPM ata 100 hard drive.

First for my iuVCR problem:
The audio and video are never in sync. And if you are thinking that it is off by a fixed rate, that is not true. For example, if I were to record a one hour tv show, and then try to watch it. During the play back, at the begining the audio/video may be off by just a little. However, the middle may be off by a full second or more, and the end may then again be off by another different amount. Basically it is different everywhere throughout the playback. I am recording NTSC (live in USA), so at 29.970 fps. However, whenever I open up the file in vdub, after capturing, I check the video - framerate option, and I notice that the framerate is always different, for every recording. Sometimes it is very close to 29.97, sometimes it is closer to 29, sometimes 30, sometimes 31. Yet during capture I almost never drop any frames, maybe 1 or 2 in the entire 1 hour capture. I don't understand whats going on. For those fimiliar with iuVCR I have ver. 4.0.0.200 (newest), with settings as follows normally YUY2 640x480 PICVideo MJPEG Codec at quality 19, 44100 16bit stereo PCM, and I have tried variations, capturing at less resolution, different codecs, different qualities, etc. And I have tried setting the master stream as audio and video. But whatever I try, the audio/video is not in snyc. Anyone got any ideas?

Second problem (driver):
I have been told by many people to get rid of the ATI drivers and use the sourceforge universal ones. With these drivers I would be able to use vdub or other vfw capture progs at all resolutions. I decided to try it. However, I ran into a few problems. I downloaded the newest drivers, 5.2.2, and then, I rand setup and selected ati tv wonder, as my card, and philips mk2 ntsc, as my tuner. I ran the install, and it asked me to allow two drivers to be loaded, the video and audio drivers, then it said installation successful. I proceeded to restart my computer and, I noticed a couple of problems. First, as soon as I typed in my user/pass for winxp, and it began to log on, I could hear the audio of a tv channel through my speakers, even though no tv tuner program was running. Well I thought that I could run my tv program and it would just reset the audio. When I started my tv program, it did reset the audio, however, all I saw on my screen was blue flickering video. I could hear the audio that would be coming from those channels. I could change the channels just fine and the audio would turn correctly with it, but I could not see anything accept the blue flickering. I went to setup, and made sure it was NTSC and USA, which is where I am. I then tried using another program to make sure it wasn't just that software. I used that wdmutils, zip file from the website, but again same problem. I then opened up vdub, and used its capture program, and again I could hear the sound, but the video was a flickering blue screen. I tried installing your drivers again with a different tv tuner model, I tried all of the Philips, one by one, including the PAL ones. But everytime, same thing, audio, but flickering blue video. I understand that maybe it could be a tv tuner model other than philip, but, the channels work, and will go up and down, and the audio works. Also, in device manager, before I installed your drivers, i saw the entry "ATI TV Wonder TVTuner, Philips WDM TvTuner" Since I saw this, I assumed that the tv tuner model had to be a philips one. I even opened up my computer, and i looked on the card, and on the silver casing of the tv card, i saw "(MK2 PH)". I am not sure if this means mk2 philips as the model, but again I had already tried that and it still gave me the same problem. I checked the FAQ on the (btwincap.sourceforge.net) website, but it did not mention this type of problem. I don't know what to do.

If anyone could help me with either of these problems, I would greatly appreciate it. TIA.

netzfuchs
1st March 2002, 16:10
Originally posted by SuperGood
Hi,

First for my iuVCR problem:
The audio and video are never in sync. And if you are thinking that it is off by a fixed rate, that is not true.

Just as you I have been trying about everything. I captured using XVid as a codec, but other codecs don't make a difference, obviously. As I figured out on the net, IuVCR is not (yet) able to synch correctly.

n.

SuperGood
2nd March 2002, 01:06
netzfuchs: Thanks for the reply, but are you trying to say that iuVCR won't sync correctly period, and there is nothing I can do about it?

Also, I have solved the driver problem, now all thats left is iuVCR. Thanks.

netzfuchs
2nd March 2002, 12:08
Originally posted by SuperGood
netzfuchs: Thanks for the reply, but are you trying to say that iuVCR won't sync correctly period, and there is nothing I can do about it?


That's at least my latest infos, and since I didn't succeed with anything, either, I gave up.

n

alkasecond
3rd March 2002, 03:15
With sourceforge drivers you have to set your system twice.
First in capture device proprierties make sure it is NTSC and
525 lines are detected.
Then In TV tuner again NTSC and then rescan channels.
Change your capture resolution twice and restart uVCR(if thats
what you're using , I suggest VirtualVCR LEAN but MEAN it rocks).
As for audio beeing on after boot , I have the same , but it doesn't
bother me.
I just mute line in.

My system is very close to yours WindowsXP + TV wonder PCI.
Try virtualVCR for capture and do your processing in Vdub.