Redfox (AnyDVD et all) appears to be gone

[Treaties Of Warp]

AnyDVD, AnyStream, CloneDVD, CloneBD, etc...

Their domain - redfox.bz - no longer resolves.

It's been offline now for nearly 24 hours.

No one seems to know anything, so anything could be happening. No one I've talked to so far seems to know if there is any other "official" means of communication outside of redfox.bz (like Telegram or something like that), so I'm not sure how anyone is going to learn anything if redfox.bz doesn't come back.

This is the longest I've seen redfox.bz just disappear like this. There have been some similar instances in the past, but it's always been resolved within a few hours. Again, it's not just not responding, the DNS has been pulled so that it no longer resolves.

.bz is a Belize domain.

The last IP that redfox.bz resolved to is 45.93.138.193. This IP points to the Lithuanian ISP Hostinger, which seems to be where they were hosted. I'm not sure if there was a content delivery network that pointed to servers hosted on other ISPs in other parts of the world.

https://statuspage.hostinger.com/
https://whoisfreaks.com/tools/whois/lookup/redfox.bz
https://whois.domaintools.com/redfox.bz
https://ipinfo.io/ (enter 45.93.138.193)
https://ipinfo.io/products/whois-api (enter 45.93.138.193)

:scared:

[Mark_Venture]

I've been following. Wish we had some news. Speculation is running rampant in a few other forums.

hopefully they come back, and this was just "simple" issue that took long to resolve.

Only time will tell.

[Thundik81]

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/ip-address/45.93.138.193/relations
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/ip-address/178.175.131.140/relations
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/ip-address/178.175.128.25/relations
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/ip-address/185.246.128.167/relations

[Mark_Venture]

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/ip-address/45.93.138.193/relations
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/ip-address/178.175.131.140/relations
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/ip-address/178.175.128.25/relations
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/ip-address/185.246.128.167/relations

sorry, what does that mean?

[WSC4]

It is still down today. Firefox, Chrome and Edge state:

We’re having trouble finding that site. We can’t connect to the server at www.redfox.bz.

I hope this is not serious? I have a lifetime subscription at $$$.

The RedFox forum members started reporting this from April 22 and May 10: Problem connecting to AnyDVD update server! Is AnyDVD currently down?

At the moment, you can still update to 8.7.1.0 (3rd April 2024) https://www.videohelp.com/software/AnyDVD/old-versions

Unfortunately, this did not help. I have several Blu-ray movies, and AnyDVD needs to connect to their server to decrypt. I have even their optional database containing Blu-ray discs, which are not included in the AnyDVD application: AnyDVD Protection Database. The version I have could be too old. Not sure what to do now.

[richardpl]

Seems legit, considering shady business model.

[Mark_Venture]

Not sure what to do now.
Try MakeMKV? it works for me to rip main movie to MKV or make a disc backup to folder on hard drive.

[hajj_3]

Not sure what to do now.

DVDFab Passkey for Blu-ray or makemkv

[xreveal]

DVDFab Passkey for Blu-ray or makemkv

or Xreveal: https://www.xreveal.com (http://www.xreveal.com)

[SamuriHL]

Hadn't seen xreveal before. That looks highly useful. Thanks for posting.

[WSC4]

I installed Xreveal and the installation was quick and easy.

https://www.videohelp.com/software/Xreveal

Just a note, that your Internet Service Provider could issue a false positive and block their site. When I tried to connect to their website, this happened: THIS WEBSITE HAS BEEN BLOCKED.

When I tried to decrypt a DVD or Blu-ray, I got this: Cannot connect to server for cloud decryption

I tried a number of Website Safety & Security Checks, and https://www.xreveal.com/ passed 100% as safe. I had to get the false positive removed from my ISP.

The free version can connect to Xreveal's server for decryption.

[SamuriHL]

Did you put the keydb.cfg file in that directory? Or did you put it in its default directory which is different than what it's looking for?

Sent from my SM-S928U1 using Tapatalk

[WSC4]

Yes, I put it in that directory: C:\ProgramData\aacs\KeyDB.cfg. The author of the program has sent me a PM and I'll work through his instructions later.

//UPDATE//

Just to let you know that it was not Xreveal that was failing. It was my Internet Service Provider blocking his site and it was a false positive. Also, I did not really need KeyDB.cfg. The free version can connect to Xreveal's server for decryption.

Meanwhile, I sent an e-mail last Friday to RedFox. I had all their info from when I purchased the program September 2021. It cost 109.00 EUR for a lifetime licence. I had a sinking feeling it would be futile. This is what came back: Despite repeated attempts to deliver your message, querying the Domain Name System (DNS) for the recipient's domain location information failed.

[SamuriHL]

You're in good hands. I'm sure he'll get you squared away with whatever's going on.

Given that Redfox has been down a week at this point, I'm not super hopeful. I've not seen any statements anywhere from someone that worked there. It's quite sad, really.

[Wishbringer]

Not only AnyDVD HD is gone,

today I looked for a new keyDB.cfg at FindVUK Online Database (https://fvonline-db.bplaced.net/), it's gone too.
Wasn't at 08.06.2024.

So maybe some takedown orders?

[coricopat]

FindVUK Online Database

Seems to work just normal?

[SamuriHL]

Yea works fine for me.

[jpsdr]

Error 404 for me.

[magician]

today I looked for a new keyDB.cfg at FindVUK Online Database (https://fvonline-db.bplaced.net/), it's gone too.

http://fvonline-db.bplaced.net/ does not support HTTPS. You have to load the page without encryption. If your browser automatically redirects to the https:// version, which is a parked page at the domain host, you should edit the URL in the address bar to remove the "s". If your browser upgrades connections to force all pages to load with HTTPS, you'll have to add an exception or turn off the setting as needed.

[SamuriHL]

Or just use FindVUK to sync the keydb and realize it still works...

[WSC4]

Yes, the poster has put in the wrong URL.

https://fvonline-db.bplaced.net

will send you to: Sorry, we can‘t find that page. Error 404

http://fvonline-db.bplaced.net

Is the correct URL

[Wishbringer]

issue was a browser update that activated https-only mode. sorry

[kurkosdr]

I find it weird that they just... disappeared. Not even a hint of what might have happened.

Also, if I have a copy of the installer and the binary license file (lifetime license), can I install and use that version of the software?

[kurkosdr]

Seems legit, considering shady business model.
The DMCA is a US law that applies to the US only. Any other anti-circumvention laws in other countries apply to those countries only. There is no worldwide ban on DRM circumvention.

So, with that out of the way, what is "shady" about the business model?

[Weirdo]

...if I have a copy of the installer and the binary license file (lifetime license), can I install and use that version of the software?
Yes, you can.

[Mark_Venture]

I find it weird that they just... disappeared. Not even a hint of what might have happened.

Also, if I have a copy of the installer and the binary license file (lifetime license), can I install and use that version of the software?
Anystream worked by "calling home" so it wont work.

I'm not sure about AnyDVD or their other software.

[richardpl]

That company have broke multiple international laws and IPs, if it ever got seriously big and threat to big corporations no wonder bigger and stronger players took it down.

[SamuriHL]

You have proof of that statement? Or is that like all the rest, speculation? Because to this date, I've seen no evidence that it was "taken down". The DNS records have been deleted so it's as if the site/company never existed. But who did that and why is not something that to my knowledge anyone outside of Redfox knows. All the speculation in the world is not going to change the simple facts that no one knows and they are in fact gone. No sense worrying about it now unless they pop back up at some point.

As for AnyDVD, I was told that as long as you have the keydb configured, it will still work for new UHD's. AnyDVD never supported the keydb for blu-ray so it's likely those won't work given that the OPD is offline (outside the discs already supported in the latest version, that is). XReveal is a good alternative solution to those who still need AnyDVD's real time decryption functionality.

AnyStream was more complicated and as mentioned required a server connection to work. This was both a benefit and a curse. The decryption was handled on those servers which means when things changed they could often fix it behind the scenes without requiring new versions. The curse is, now that those servers are gone, AnyStream no longer functions in any capacity. If the functionality that AnyStream provided is important to you, there are other solutions out there that may fit your particular usage. Be prepared, however, none of them are cheap.

I for one will miss RedFox. They had excellent products and really good developers. Until we hear from someone that worked there, we'll never know what really caused the company to disappear.

[jpsdr]

Is there some place explaining how to use the keydb files with AnyDVD (if it's something possible) ?

[SamuriHL]

Open the AnyDVD settings, navigate to the UHD options, and then use the browse button to select the keydb.cfg file on your system. To get the keydb you have to download it. Given that it has to be updated regularly for new keys, you should search for FindVUK here on the forum as that'll allow you to synchronize it quite easily to keep it updated.

[WSC4]

Is there some place explaining how to use the keydb files with AnyDVD (if it's something possible) ?

I would not bother with AnyDVD. Try out Xreveal.

https://www.xreveal.com/

How to use it:

https://www.xreveal.com/how-to-use-xreveal.html

I'll have to ask the site owner if he could change the grey font to black, as it is hard to read.

Xreveal is almost a carbon copy of AnyDVD, and the way things are at the moment, his program could replace it.

[Grimsdyke]

My overall setup are the players enhanced by libaacs and libmmbd64 plus keydb.cfg !! Only if there are problems I use xreveal.

But Xreveal is certainly the way to go now because it works perfectly (99,999 %) and is actively developed. Highly recommended if a user wants/needs an alternative for AnyDVD !!!

[jpsdr]

I'll check Xreveal i didn't know.
What about DVDFab ?

Never mind, it seems DVDFab needs mandatory internet connection, so not an option for me...

I've checked Xreveal and buy Pro, it will support the dev.

[WSC4]

The great ability I like about AnyDVD and Xreveal is that they decrypt in real-time and in a few seconds. You can then view the video files in almost any player and sort through rubbish on the discs and use File Explorer to copy over what you want.

I cannot do that with MakeMKV, DVDFab or any of the 15 Decrypters listed at VideoHelp.

[hajj_3]

The great ability I like about AnyDVD and Xreveal is that they decrypt in real-time and in a few seconds. You can then view the video files in almost any player and sort through rubbish on the discs and use File Explorer to copy over what you want.

I cannot do that with MakeMKV, DVDFab or any of the 15 Decrypters listed at VideoHelp.

i'm pretty sure dvdfab passkey does that too.

[m.rup]

Hi Guys, i've purchased Xreveal Pro. When browsing through the settings, I noticed that the location of keydb.cfg is empty. Does the Pro version make no use of this file?

[SamuriHL]

Usually it defaults to C:\ProgramData\aacs but you should point it to wherever you downloaded your KEYDB.cfg file to. For example, if you use FindVUK to synchronize it, which is highly recommended, it'll put it in %appdata%\aacs which is typically your roaming directory in your user profile.

[m.rup]

Thank's for your reply, I will download the file. I was not sure because the how to for the Pro version says something like "install it and use it".

[AndrewB]

Does Xreveal play nicely when installed alongside AnyDVD? Just want to check before I attempt it.

[SamuriHL]

Don't run them at the same time, but sure.

[AndrewB]

Tried to install it, but my antivirus flagged the main executable as a Trojan. I’ve reported it as a potential false positive and am just waiting to hear back.

[kurkosdr]

Tried to install it, but my antivirus flagged the main executable as a Trojan. I’ve reported it as a potential false positive and am just waiting to hear back.

What antivirus was that?

[AndrewB]

What antivirus was that?

Avast

[DrinkLyeAndDie]

Tried to install it, but my antivirus flagged the main executable as a Trojan. I’ve reported it as a potential false positive and am just waiting to hear back.

What antivirus was that?

Avast

ESET also decided to start disliking Xreveal. It only takes issue with xreveal.exe in the install directory which it labels as suspicious.

[ron spencer]

I sent it to VirusTotal

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/6479c5d106976ff5c85ee81ad900df06137a601b59192f86d2cdc2d76cd951b1/detection

Looks like overzealous antivirus programs.

[bambam]

Tried to install it, but my antivirus flagged the main executable as a Trojan. I’ve reported it as a potential false positive and am just waiting to hear back.

I have the same problem with Norton AV

[datman]

You have proof of that statement? Or is that like all the rest, speculation? Because to this date, I've seen no evidence that it was "taken down". The DNS records have been deleted so it's as if the site/company never existed. But who did that and why is not something that to my knowledge anyone outside of Redfox knows. All the speculation in the world is not going to change the simple facts that no one knows and they are in fact gone. No sense worrying about it now unless they pop back up at some point.

As for AnyDVD, I was told that as long as you have the keydb configured, it will still work for new UHD's. AnyDVD never supported the keydb for blu-ray so it's likely those won't work given that the OPD is offline (outside the discs already supported in the latest version, that is). XReveal is a good alternative solution to those who still need AnyDVD's real time decryption functionality.

AnyStream was more complicated and as mentioned required a server connection to work. This was both a benefit and a curse. The decryption was handled on those servers which means when things changed they could often fix it behind the scenes without requiring new versions. The curse is, now that those servers are gone, AnyStream no longer functions in any capacity. If the functionality that AnyStream provided is important to you, there are other solutions out there that may fit your particular usage. Be prepared, however, none of them are cheap.

I for one will miss RedFox. They had excellent products and really good developers. Until we hear from someone that worked there, we'll never know what really caused the company to disappear.
Glad I remembered this forum. I was surprised when I discovered last week Anydvd was gone. It looks like Xreveal is the answer to my needs assuming it handles UHD. I'm demoing DVDfab as I have years ago and I either don't know how to fully use it or I just don't like it. I also own Makemkv as I thought it was a solution for UHD. At the time a couple of years ago Makemkv was not handling DV and Atmos audio.

As it turned out I prefer CloneBD it rips a movie only full copy both DV and Atmos work and the file is slightly smaller that a full copy.

For years I've been a fan of BDRB and use it for BD discs. DVDfab seemed to only make MP4 or MKV files. Maybe either would be fine. I'm just stuck with what I know works and keep doing the same process.

[datman]

You have proof of that statement? Or is that like all the rest, speculation? Because to this date, I've seen no evidence that it was "taken down". The DNS records have been deleted so it's as if the site/company never existed. But who did that and why is not something that to my knowledge anyone outside of Redfox knows. All the speculation in the world is not going to change the simple facts that no one knows and they are in fact gone. No sense worrying about it now unless they pop back up at some point.

As for AnyDVD, I was told that as long as you have the keydb configured, it will still work for new UHD's. AnyDVD never supported the keydb for blu-ray so it's likely those won't work given that the OPD is offline (outside the discs already supported in the latest version, that is). XReveal is a good alternative solution to those who still need AnyDVD's real time decryption functionality.

AnyStream was more complicated and as mentioned required a server connection to work. This was both a benefit and a curse. The decryption was handled on those servers which means when things changed they could often fix it behind the scenes without requiring new versions. The curse is, now that those servers are gone, AnyStream no longer functions in any capacity. If the functionality that AnyStream provided is important to you, there are other solutions out there that may fit your particular usage. Be prepared, however, none of them are cheap.

I for one will miss RedFox. They had excellent products and really good developers. Until we hear from someone that worked there, we'll never know what really caused the company to disappear.

I have the same problem with Norton AVI don't have antivirus on my video computer, I only connect for updates. I still got the danger message when I installed Xreveal I installed anyway and it appears to be working just as Anydvd.

[SamuriHL]

Glad I remembered this forum. I was surprised when I discovered last week Anydvd was gone. It looks like Xreveal is the answer to my needs assuming it handles UHD.


Xreveal handles whatever you have in the keydb.cfg file you point it at. It's a very good replacement for AnyDVD for realtime decrypting.


I'm demoing DVDfab as I have years ago and I either don't know how to fully use it or I just don't like it.


It's very versatile.


I also own Makemkv as I thought it was a solution for UHD. At the time a couple of years ago Makemkv was not handling DV and Atmos audio.


DV in MKV was handled first by MakeMKV. ATMOS audio issues have been solved for quite some time.


As it turned out I prefer CloneBD it rips a movie only full copy both DV and Atmos work and the file is slightly smaller that a full copy.


DVDFab can do the same, but, if you use Xreveal and CloneBD you should not have any interruption to your current workflow.


For years I've been a fan of BDRB and use it for BD discs. DVDfab seemed to only make MP4 or MKV files. Maybe either would be fine. I'm just stuck with what I know works and keep doing the same process.

That is incorrect. DVDFab can make pretty much anything, from full copy to movie only to various file formats like mp4 and MKV.

Please note I'm not recommending anything one way or the other as I have no affiliation with any programs. I will say I'm personally using Xreveal and MakeMKV for my own backup needs at this point. But I did want to correct a few misconceptions about DVDFab here.

[rco133]

Hi.

I have also had a look at Xreveal, but either I am doing something wrong, or it doesn't even come close to anydvd when it comes to BD discs.

With Anydvd I have yet to find a BD that it could not decrypt.

With Xreveal, even after using a just downloaded keydb.cfg file, it can't handle very recent BD discs.

Makemkv also just decodes every BD that is thrown at it, no matter how new it is. But unfortunately makemkv doesn't remove region code.

To me it seems like Anydvd and makemkv have something generic built in for BD discs, which can just decode any BD that is thrown at them, while Xreveal seems to depend solely on the keydb.cfg file.

Is this a correct observation, or am I doing something wrong?

Yes, I have of course pointed Xreveal the the just downloaded keydb.cfg file.

I bought two BD's on retail date the other day, and Xreveal was not able to decode any of them. Makemkv just decoded them at once.

rco133