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markrb
25th February 2002, 03:52
DVD2SVCD looking for your blessing to add this new and I think better and easier way of converting 2 sided or multiple DVD's to the Q + A replacing the SmartRipper method of Q41.

1. Start DVD2SVCD as normal on the first side/disc by selecting the normal IFO file.
2. Make sure ripping is checked
3. Rip the first side into the final directory
4. When the ripping starts hit the X to close DVD2SVCD. A popup will come up asking if you really want to close. Select Yes. After the rip is complete DVD2SVCD will close.
5. Make a temp directory.
6. Change the ripping directory to the temp directory you just created.
7. Rip the second side/disc the same way as the first side/disc into the temp directory.
8. Find the highest number of the Vob files in the first directory.
9. Rename the second set of VOB files so that their file names are the same as the first set of vobs, but numbered sequentially one number higher then the first set of VOB's...(EX. VTS_01_03.VOB(highest first set), VTS_01_04.VOB(new lowest second set)
10. Move the renamed Vob files to the final directory with the first set of VOB files and erase the temp directory.
11. Start DVD2SVCD and uncheck ripping.
12. Select the IFO file off the HD and continue as normal.


I just tested this with a double sided DVD I have and it worked perfect. I only went as far as the audio extraction, but the whole audio stream was there from both sides of the disc.
No need to edit any files this way and you are using the internal routines right from the start. No SmartRipper needed anymore.

Do you think they should be re-ripped again with internal routines?

Mark

xrv1138
25th February 2002, 05:21
would also like to know if, when processing like this, the chapters will be recreated or will only the first side's chapters be done ?
ive used this method already but from memory only the first side's chapters were recreated.
i didnt pipe the vobs thru dvd2svcds internal routines a second time though...

mrbass
26th February 2002, 02:23
10. Copy the renamed Vob files to the final directory with the first set of VOB files.
11. You may erase the temp directory after you have copied the second set of VOB files.


10. Move the renamed Vob files to the final directory with the first set of VOB files.
11. (not needed)


just a suggestion..saves time and the thrashing of your hd. Not sure about xrv1138 question. I can't remember myself.

markrb
26th February 2002, 18:01
How about this instead?

10. Move the renamed Vob files to the final directory with the first set of VOB files and erase the temp directory.

11. (deleted and 12 made to be 11)

There will be a couple a unneeded files in the temp directory wasting space.

xrv1138 I don't think you will have chapters for the second disc if you use DVD based chapters. However if you use a fixed time you will.

Mark

mrbass
27th February 2002, 02:10
sounds good ..typo on unneeded though.

markrb
27th February 2002, 05:01
I wasn't going to put that in the question. I was just explaining the need to tell them to erase to you, but thanks for the spellcheck.

Mark

xrv1138
27th February 2002, 06:15
markrb
cheers for that
i have tried fixed chapters doing this before and have ended up with interesting results
eg 4 disks with each having 4 fixed chapters in the first half with no chapters in the scond half of each cd
i will try it again soon and retest this :)

dvd2svcd
27th February 2002, 06:50
@markrb:

You really don't need my permission to change the Q&A ;) That is one of the reasons you're a moderator, because we trust in you and your suggestions. Besides, I am sure that we would hear if your above method wasn't working :)

thebeak40
27th February 2002, 13:56
Hi. I used this method for Pearl Harbour. I had to set chapters for every 10 minutes rather than using the "official" chapters the DVD would normally select.

Outside of this it worked perfectly well for me

DVDHack
28th February 2002, 00:35
When I use these methods and load the ifo for processing I still get only the movie length of the first side. Does DVD2SVCD use some other time value to determine the bitrate or do I just take pot luck on the number of CDs I end up with. I'm happy with pot luck but I'm looking for a better way to maximise my bitrate for a given number of disks.

Can I set the total time somehow?

Dropbear
28th February 2002, 01:06
Originally posted by markrb

9. Rename the second set of Vob files the same as the first set except increasing each one by one number.



This step is pretty unclear.. Are you trying to say.

Rename the second set of vob files so that their file names are the same as the first set of vobs, but numbered sequentially starting from the highest number of the first vob plus one..

eek .. thats no clearer.. how about an example..

Side 1 Rip Directory
VTS_01.VOB
VTS_02.VOB
VTS_03.VOB

Side 2 Rip Directory
VTS_01.VOB renamed to VTS_04.VOB
VTS_02.VOB renamed to VTS_05.VOB
VTS_03.VOB renamed to VTS_06.VOB

Move all vobs into original directory...

Not being picky, but making sure I understand it myself

Labersack
28th February 2002, 02:44
@DVDHack
DVD2SVCD will get the correct time of the movie later, don't worry.

@dropbear, you are almost right, only the names of the VOBS are:
VTS_01_01.vob
to
VTS_01_06.vob

Dropbear
28th February 2002, 02:51
Originally posted by Labersack
@DVDHack
DVD2SVCD will get the correct time of the movie later, don't worry.

@dropbear, you are almost right, only the names of the VOBS are:
VTS_01_01.vob
to
VTS_01_06.vob

Ahh I see, yeh well this shows I did NOT understand it properly.... thanks!
:scared: :scared: :scared:

markrb
28th February 2002, 06:14
Labersack actually there isn't much he can do about the time thing since it is read from the IFO file.

However it doesn't matter. DVD2SVCD only uses the IFO file to find the time for our benefit. Like to make sure we got the right one.
It actually opens the movie and finds it's real length on it's own.

This is a great thing on most videos, not just 2 sided ones.
As an example. I am doing Jay and Silent Bob strike back, the IFO says the movie is 1:55:00 long when it is actually 1:44:00 long. This happens often and is why I always make sure I have a good cushion around the number of cd's to use for a given time period.

I like your line a little better then mine. I will change it to this.

Rename the second set of VOB files so that their file names are the same as the first set of vobs, but numbered sequentially one number higher then the first set of VOB's...(EX. VTS_01_03.VOB(highest first set), VTS_01_04.VOB(new lowest second set)

Mark

Trahald
2nd March 2002, 18:59
IFOedit will make a ifo from all the vobs. although chaptering wont be per the origional dvd. at least the total time would be right

markrb
2nd March 2002, 22:23
Total time doesn't really matter except as a reference to the user. DVD2SVCD doesn't use that info from the IFO file.
Although the idea of making chapters is interesting. At least you would get the correct ones from the first DVD and then you can add your own for the second.

Mark