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prog4ever
7th July 2020, 16:12
Hi, group!

Kinda newbie question, I know.
I learnt a lot about DVD's and tried to help people every time I could... on "those days"...
Encrypting, decrypting, ripping, and so on, DVD's don't have too much "secrets", for me.

But... on everything concerning to BD's... I am almost a 19th century guy!:D
I have a BluRay reader, which is connected to a 55"LCD on my living room and which I sometimes "transport" to a projection room I have. No problems with that.
The problem is I want to go on vacation and have some BD's I would like to decode and "put" on some 9GB DVD's.

Starting with this 40GB BD a friend of mine ripped and taught me how to do it, these are the files/folders I now have:
- BDMV file
- CERTIFICATE folder, containing a BACKUP folder, which contains a id.bdmv file
- a disc.inf file

So, my questions are:
- Are this the files/folders I need to "decode" and "shrink" to a DVD?
- If so, which apps are best suitable to do the task? I prefer Mac apps, but, in case there isn't any, I can deal with Windows apps, too.

Sorry for the disturbances and thanks a lot for any help on this.

All the best for you and... stay safe!

Arlindo Silva - Portugal

Sharc
7th July 2020, 17:14
What will be your player during your vacation? A DVD player (+ TV) which you want to feed with your burned 9GB DVD discs?
If so you would have to author and burn a DVD, fully compliant with the DVD standard. You could use BD-Rebuilder (Windows) for everything. Be prepared for a (steep) initial learning curve .....

If you just want to reduce the file size for playback via your PC or via a TV with internal player you should look for the xxxxx.m2ts movie file (usually just the largest file) in the STREAMS folder, encode + remux it using ffmpeg or any of the many GUIs, and put it as an .mkv or .mp4 on a USB stick.

prog4ever
7th July 2020, 17:54
What will be your player during your vacation? A DVD player (+ TV) which you want to feed with your burned 9GB DVD discs?
If so you would have to author and burn a DVD, fully compliant with the DVD standard. You could use BD-Rebuilder (Windows) for everything. Be prepared for a (steep) initial learning curve .....

If you just want to reduce the file size for playback via your PC or via a TV with internal player you should look for the xxxxx.m2ts movie file (usually just the largest file) in the STREAMS folder, encode + remux it using ffmpeg or any of the many GUIs, and put it as an .mkv or .mp4 on a USB stick.

First things first... THANK YOU for a very quick reply!

I really didn't mention that I will use the DVD's on a Pioneer AVIC I have on my camper. Sorry.
But I could use the ffmpeg app (it's an "old friend" of mine).
Does ffmpeg app stops the "cinavia" problem, for instance?

So, any changes on your advice?

All the best

Arlindo

Ghitulescu
7th July 2020, 20:01
An USB stick or better a SSD equally USB would require less space and they are scratch-free. Cinavia is not enabled for anything but a BD copy on a round aluminium-plated polycarbonate frisbee with a hole in the middle of the exact size of a Dutch guilder.

Sharc
7th July 2020, 22:39
First things first... THANK YOU for a very quick reply!

I really didn't mention that I will use the DVD's on a Pioneer AVIC I have on my camper. Sorry.
But I could use the ffmpeg app (it's an "old friend" of mine).
Does ffmpeg app stops the "cinavia" problem, for instance?

So, any changes on your advice?

All the best

Arlindo
Can the AVIC play h.264 (AVC) video from its USB ports?
Or can the AVIC play .mkv or .mp4 files burned to a DVD?

If yes, use ffmpeg to produce a .mkv or .mp4 file from your xxxxx.m2ts movie sources.

For example:
1) Copy ffmpeg.exe to a folder of your choice, say C:\FFMPEG
2) Save this text below as 'Generic_x264.cmd' to your desktop
"c:\FFMPEG\ffmpeg.exe" -i "%~1" -map 0 -sn -c:a aac -c:v libx264 -preset fast -crf 22 -s 1280x720 "%~1_new.mkv"
pause
3) Drag and drop the xxxxx.m2ts movie file from your ripped STREAM folder onto the icon (from step 2) on your desktop
4) wait and see ..... eventually you should get the recoded xxxxx.mts_new.mkv, with all audio tracks included.

prog4ever
8th July 2020, 07:06
Once more, I have to THANK YOU for your invaluable help.

At this precise moment, I am "transforming" the BDMV file on a MKV one, using VideoSolo, an app I used before.

After several hours, I hope I will have a 6GB MKV.
This is more than enough, because the AVIC has a little screen.
I am now considering to watch those MKV on the LCD I have on the camper. Let's see. I will let you know how it went.

Again... THANKS A LOT, my friends.;)

Best

Arlindo

Sharc
8th July 2020, 07:40
I am surprised. I thought that VideoSolo accepts DVD stuff as input only, but no Blu-ray formats. Apparently I was wrong...... and it seems to work on pre-ripped BD material (BDMV folders).

From
https://www.videosolo.com/bd-dvd-ripper/
*BD-DVD Ripper now can't convert commercial Blu-ray disc.
So, don't download or buy it if you only want to convert Blu-ray disc.

prog4ever
8th July 2020, 09:41
I am surprised. I thought that VideoSolo accepts DVD stuff as input only, but no Blu-ray formats.

Yes, my friend, I thought that too.
I have this "VideoSolo Free Video Converter" which is doing the task very well, until now.
The app accepted the BDMV file and, even better, merged the various parts of the video. Neat!
It puts only a little watermark on one corner (I watched what was going on on a duplicate of the few first minutes) and didn't stop at the first 5 minutes, like some free versions do. The watermark isn't annoying at all and the video is perfectly viewable, at least, on little screens, I bet.

When the task ends, I will post here my feedback.

Best regards

Arlindo

prog4ever
8th July 2020, 12:43
Yeah, like I was hoping, the app worked like a charm:)

Now I have a perfect MKV file, using a "legal" application which done the task pretty well.
I recommend it.

Thanks for your invaluable help.

All the best

Arlindo

Asmodian
11th July 2020, 01:38
I am suspicious, according to other reviews I have found "VideoSolo Free Video Converter" adds ads to the beginning of the video and wants a subscription. Is this a disguised marketing effort?

Why not just use MakeMKV or Handbrake? MakeMKV can even decrypt the disc. And, no, Handbrake is not illegal. You also already decrypted the disc so.... :rolleyes:

prog4ever
12th July 2020, 08:05
At least, the version of VideoSolo I have doesn't put any ads, add-ons and so-ons:D

The only thing the app does is to put a very little semi-transparent "VideoSolo" logo on the upper left corner, which isn't annoying at all.
I was surprised too, believe me...;)

All the best

Arlindo

EDIT: HANDBRAKE doesn't accept BDMV files...
2ND EDIT: MAKEMKV doesn't accept BDMV files on a Windows PC... don't understand why.

prog4ever
12th July 2020, 08:17
And... by the way, I have another question to the pros here:

- What do you think is the best format to transform a BDMV file into?
That is... a format which compresses the video from 40GB to, let's say, 8 to 10GB without visible loss of quality.

I add a little image of the formats my Samsung Player supports.
Please tell me what is the best compatible and best quality one.

Or direct me to the right sub-forum to ask this question.

Thanks a lot for your support

Arlindo

Ghitulescu
12th July 2020, 08:52
After several hours, I hope I will have a 6GB MKV.
Excellent - you work 6 weeks to prepare material for 2 weeks of holliday. :) :)

I need 2 hours to fill in my portablle SSD (because it needs much less power) with ripped versions of Blurays and a small player that can reads these from said SSD - I use a Sony BDP-S6500.

prog4ever
12th July 2020, 09:00
Excellent - you work 6 weeks to prepare material for 2 weeks of holliday. :) :)

I need 2 hours to fill in my portablle SSD (because it needs much less power) with ripped versions of Blurays and a small player that can reads these from said SSD - I use a Sony BDP-S6500.

I use a 64GB pen on the AVIC, but I have to transform BDMV on a MKV file or something.

Sharc
12th July 2020, 09:04
EDIT: HANDBRAKE doesn't accept BDMV files...
2ND EDIT: MAKEMKV doesn't accept BDMV files on a Windows PC... don't understand why.

You must open the full BD Structure rather than just the "BDMV" folder.

MakeMKV does however not transcode (re-encode, shrink ...) the source. It wraps the files unaltered into .mkv containers.

Forteen88
15th July 2020, 11:29
@Sharc. Only "-preset fast"? Isn't that preset mostly for realtime-encoding?! "-preset slower" gives better video-quality in exchange for more encoding-time.

EDIT: 1. Choose the highest CRF value that provides an acceptable quality.
2. Choose the slowest preset that you have patience for.

Sharc
15th July 2020, 11:47
@Sharc. Only "-preset fast"? Isn't that preset mostly for realtime-encoding?! "-preset slower" gives better video-quality in exchange for more encoding-time.
Sure, but the OP is encoding for a tiny screen only, and even '--preset fast' produces very good quality. The OP's holidays are coming soon, so he can probably not spend too much time for encoding his Blu-ray collection .... :D

prog4ever
16th July 2020, 15:55
You sure is right, Sharc, my friend!;)

Forteen88
19th July 2020, 13:12
By the way, if you encode from a grainy video source and want to retain the grain of the source video, I don't recommend that crappy setting :)
Patience is a virtue, although some guy here encodes in -preset placebo setting in x265 (which encodes MUCH slower than x264 at same preset) which is probably overdoing it :)

Sharc
19th July 2020, 14:31
Did you read what the OP's target is? Reproducing the grain for a tiny screen?? Just let the user decide what is good enough for him. :)

Forteen88
19th July 2020, 15:26
Did you read what the OP's target is? Reproducing the grain for a tiny screen?? Just let the user decide what is good enough for him. :)True, I didn't read what the target was :P Well, if he got the money to spend on burnable DVD:s, he can use crappy settings with increased bitrate. Pioneer AVIC got a really small display, so maybe even SD-resolution is OK (like 720x480).

Ghitulescu
22nd July 2020, 09:36
Well, he was not supposed to drive and to watch movies, be they 9GB or 50 :) :)
A lot of campers have 20" TVs or larger. A miniature mediaplayer won't take too much place for itself, and a HDMI cable or similar won't either.

Forteen88
22nd July 2020, 12:17
@Ghitulescu. The Pioneer AVIC models with the biggest displays have 7 inch displays. SD-resolution should be enough for that.

prog4ever
23rd July 2020, 13:58
Oh, never thought the discussion would continue.

Of course the AVIC has a tiny display, but the camper LCD doesn't!:p:p:p