Home movies to a BD disc

[datman]

I have been trying to produce Gopro movies and occasionally a Youtube captured in 1080p. The software I primarily have been using is Videopad the Gopro videos are mountain bike rides and some could be 3+ hours long. Videopad works pretty well but 2 issues I have figured out and video longer than 2 hours has to be processed in W10 if processed in W7 it will freeze up at some point after 2 hours. The ongoing issue say with a 3 hour Gopro movie processed in Videopad at 1080p to a BD movie. The final BD folder will be like 45g. I tried using BDRB to shrink it to 23g and it seems to work but the audio becomes out of sync. Just a little at the beginning way off at the end, several minutes.

The Youtube captures don't burn well either. I recently bought a HDML-Cloner Pro capture card and it seems to work pretty good much better than the StarTech card I was using. Both only work with software included with the card. The StarTech was an oem version of Cyberlink Power Director, no other full version of PD would recognize the StarTech card. The HDML does a better job in terms of picture quality but no software I have will produce a BD movie disc. I tried importing MP4 captured videos into BDRB but the have burned nothing but coasters.

With the HDML I can record directly to a drive without the need for a PC and a 1hour mp4 1080p video is only 4+g and looks fantastic. I can play from drive without issues. Probably how I'm going to archive this stuff. I would like software to produce Blu-ray movies and ideas?

[Cary Knoop]

Why go through the hassle of burning BDs, why not upload to YouTube or use a local USB drive?

[Sharc]

... I tried using BDRB to shrink it to 23g and it seems to work but the audio becomes out of sync. Just a little at the beginning way off at the end, several minutes.
Just guessing: Is your footage VFR (Variable Frame Rate) .mp4 files? Check with MediaInfo. If so, it may help to convert (re-encode) these to Constant Frame Rate Video - e.g. using Handbrake - before importing with BDRB.

[gonca]

I believe that BDRB can check and correct for VFR to CFR

[Sharc]

I believe that BDRB can check and correct for VFR to CFR
Yes, but I had cases (mobile phone clips) which caused problems as they were not correctly analyzed. I think to remember that I reported the issue some time ago.

[datman]

Thanks guys good ideas all. Cary I already had this thought and see more usb sticks in my future. Burning the disc is probably just my old way of doing things. I used to have a Canopus ADVC-100 and it and windows movie maker worked flawlessly. When it stopped working well I since have trying to get a 1080p card to work but nothing works well all the time.

Looking into Handbreak not sure how I should set it up to even scan the video, I never used it before. Here is a screenshot I opened a file changed from peak framerate to constant frame rate and started processing. An hour and 40 minutes to process will be interesting if it works especially since no one at the Videopad forum had any ideas and those who generally respond I believe are all on the payroll.

[datman]

Looks good Handbrake fixed the issue thanks for the suggestion

[Sharc]

Looks good Handbrake fixed the issue thanks for the suggestion
You could also try this tool (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1866438#post1866438)which is much faster than a full re-encode.
Good luck.

[datman]

You could also try this tool (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1866438#post1866438)which is much faster than a full re-encode.
Good luck.
Looks like it might be over my head. Still experimenting processing a 2+ hour Gopro ride video in Videopad. Not sure about something looks like Handbrake converts a BD movie file into a MP4 video file. If I'm producing a full video with menu and chapters how will that work if at all? There is a huge amount of processing done here 6+ hours in VP and likely 3+ in HB. If there is no way to keep a menu for skipping around this may not won't work for these videos. I like how easy VP is for making semi cool looking menus. I'm going to post something in their forum identifying the variable rate as my issue. Maybe they will have a way to correct it on their end.

Last night I also used Handbrake on a Youtube capture and the mp4 file was imported into BDRB and burn a successful BD5 disc.

[datman]

So any ideas how I can use Handbrake or any other tool to take the BD movie file (M2TS) processed in Videopad encode it with Handbrake but saving it as a an identical M2TS file with the chapter points still intact. I could replace the the VP original M2TS file in the the same BD file structure. I would then run BDRB to shrink it down.

[Sharc]

So any ideas how I can use Handbrake or any other tool to take the BD movie file (M2TS) processed in Videopad encode it with Handbrake but saving it as a an identical M2TS file with the chapter points still intact. I could replace the the VP original M2TS file in the the same BD file structure. I would then run BDRB to shrink it down.
I don't know Videopad, but VFR sources are a PITA for most NLEs (video editors). So the first step in your workflow should be to convert the VFR video to CFR (constant frame rate), e.g. with Handbrake. Use a sufficiently low rate factor (=RF in handbrake), say 17, in order to preserve the original quality. From there onwards you may use your editor of choice and/or BDRB to process your files further and burn to disc.

[Ghitulescu]

Since VFR is anyway not standard, I would not even buy such cameras - there are hundreds of models around to pick one for...
But that's me...

Some issues may also come from a non-standard fps, my dash camera likes to shot at 29.92 fps, which would lead in some editors to audio-video mismatches.

[Sharc]

Since VFR is anyway not standard, I would not even buy such cameras - there are hundreds of models around to pick one for...
But that's me...

Some issues may also come from a non-standard fps, my dash camera likes to shot at 29.92 fps, which would lead in some editors to audio-video mismatches.
Agree, but unfortunately video from mobile phones and dash cameras etc. are often "VFR" .mp4 files. "VFR" in quotation marks because these files are basically CFR with little jitter around the nominal value. The first frame (and perhaps the last frame) may however be totally off the kilter, causing problems with subsequent processing and making MediaInfo report a wide span between max and min framerate, and as a consequence some odd average framerate like 30.001 fps or 29.91 fps.
A pain for any NLE and other tools which rely on the analysis from MediaInfo.

[datman]

I don't know Videopad, but VFR sources are a PITA for most NLEs (video editors). So the first step in your workflow should be to convert the VFR video to CFR (constant frame rate), e.g. with Handbrake. Use a sufficiently low rate factor (=RF in handbrake), say 17, in order to preserve the original quality. From there onwards you may use your editor of choice and/or BDRB to process your files further and burn to disc.

I like your thinking here. I tried it but it seem to harm the quality. A 11g file becomes 1.5g mp4 file. Is there another way to just change to a CFR frame rate and not encode the file?

[Ghitulescu]

I like your thinking here. I tried it but it seem to harm the quality. A 11g file becomes 1.5g mp4 file. Is there another way to just change to a CFR frame rate and not encode the file?

Theoretically yes.
Maybe there is a software that rewrites the timestamps (DTS/PTS) of each frame but this may result in a shaky movement, even if the video will play technically perfect, because the image was "flashed" at a different timestamp (I don't know how to explain this better).

[Ghitulescu]

First of all, I drop the audio, leaving only the video. The format for audio was anyway annoying, because it used a less known codec, whose name I do not remember since I never used it and never will.

My Mio records at 29.92 fps, which differs from 30/1.001 by a hair. Thus I simply "speed up" a bit the things, like PALSpeedUp (24fps to 25) method for the movies.

The format of the recordings is MP4, the frame size is FullHD and the codec used is H.264. These recordings are cut in segments of about 5 minutes (plus minus a few frames).

First the lossless conversion to a more suitable video format for each file (in a BATch file)
ffmpeg -i 01.mp4 -c copy -bsf:v h264_mp4toannexb -f mpegts in1.ts
then the concatenation of the individual files into the big one
ffmpeg -i "concat:in1.ts|in2.ts|in3.ts|in4.ts|in5.ts" -c copy output.ts
and final the authoring of the BD using tsMuxerGui, wherein the fps has been changed to 30/1.001 and the stream info forced to be rewritten (see the options relating to SPS/PPS). Sometimes I work chaperts, most of the times I used the predefined (5min) or I change it to 1min (luckily the BD allowed for 999 chapters).