DVD2SVCD: Erratic Playback

[RShile]

I recently converted Jurrasic Park III from DVD to SVCD using DVD2SVCD, after ripping with Smart Ripper. I burned the Bin/Cue files with Fireburner. The video on the resulting SVCD stalls intermittently with portions of the pictured garbled, when played on a stand-alone DVD player.

When I play the raw MPEG2 files created by DVD2SVCD on the computer, the motion is jerky.

In the following log file I noticed the line "Force Film activated!". I don't know what "force film" means, but the exclamation point concerns me.

I executed crash recovery after a momentary power outage.

Any ideas what went wrong?

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- 2/16/2002 5:30:29 PM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.5 build 4
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 2/16/2002 5:30:32 PM
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -IA=1 -CS=2 -EXIT -OF=[C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[C:\CD Transfer\Video\DVD2SVCD Movie Files\Rip\video_ts\VTS_01_1.vob,C:\CD Transfer\Video\DVD2SVCD Movie Files\Rip\video_ts\VTS_01_2.vob,C:\CD Transfer\Video\DVD2SVCD Movie Files\Rip\video_ts\VTS_01_3.vob,C:\CD Transfer\Video\DVD2SVCD Movie Files\Rip\video_ts\VTS_01_4.vob,C:\CD Transfer\Video\DVD2SVCD Movie Files\Rip\video_ts\VTS_01_5.vob]
Analyzing DVD2AVI Project file
Force Film activated!
Framerate: 23976
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 2/16/2002 5:35:48 PM
- Free on drive C: 27608.63 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_stream_1.ac3
Audio extraction finished.

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- 2/16/2002 5:45:43 PM
- Free on drive C: 27312.81 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Downmixing AC3 Stream. Filename: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_stream_1.ac3
Autodetecting Azid dB Gain offset
Executing Azid. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Azid\Azid.exe" -c normal -g30db -N -L -3db "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_stream_1.ac3" "C:\CD Transfer\Video\DVD2SVCD Movie Files\DownmixedAudioSt1-48KHz.wav" >"C:\CD Transfer\Video\DVD2SVCD Movie Files\Azid.log"
Autodetection of dB offset finished
Gain offset: 12.00dB
Executing Azid. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Azid\Azid.exe" -c normal -g12.00db -L -3db "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_stream_1.ac3" "C:\CD Transfer\Video\DVD2SVCD Movie Files\DownmixedAudioSt1-48KHz.wav"
Downmixing of C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_stream_1.ac3 finished.


Downsampling audio 48000 -> 44100 using SSRC.
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- 2/16/2002 6:19:02 PM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.5 build 4
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 2/16/2002 6:19:05 PM
- Free on drive C: 26305.16 mb
- Crash Recovery
- Restarting from: Audio Processing

Downmixing AC3 Stream. Filename: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_stream_1.ac3
Autodetecting Azid dB Gain offset
Executing Azid. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Azid\Azid.exe" -c normal -g30db -N -L -3db "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_stream_1.ac3" "C:\CD Transfer\Video\DVD2SVCD Movie Files\DownmixedAudioSt1-48KHz.wav" >"C:\CD Transfer\Video\DVD2SVCD Movie Files\Azid.log"
Autodetection of dB offset finished
Gain offset: 12.00dB
Executing Azid. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Azid\Azid.exe" -c normal -g12.00db -L -3db "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_stream_1.ac3" "C:\CD Transfer\Video\DVD2SVCD Movie Files\DownmixedAudioSt1-48KHz.wav"
Downmixing of C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_stream_1.ac3 finished.


Downsampling audio 48000 -> 44100 using SSRC.
Audio downsampling finished.


Encoding wav file to mp2.
Executing tooLame. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\tooLame\tooLame.exe" -m s -b 224 -e "C:\CD Transfer\Video\DVD2SVCD Movie Files\FinalAudioSt1.wav" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_stream_1.mp2"
Audio conversion finished.

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- 2/16/2002 7:11:17 PM
- Free on drive C: 25221.44 mb
- Converting Pictures
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Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultTitlepicture.bmp
Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
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- 2/16/2002 7:11:25 PM
- Free on drive C: 25215.38 mb
- Video Encoding
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Closing program
DVD2SVCD no. frames: 132923
CCE no. frames: 132801
StreamSectors: 1667177176
AudioSectors: 157188388
VideoPAPO: 23390532
ScanOffsetBytes: 159361
SeqAligningBytes: 10128290
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 300.00
PureMPEGStream: 1476310597.20
Seconds: 5538.91
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 799.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 132801
Anti Noise Filter: 2
Passes: 3
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 2498
Avg. Bitrate: 2132

Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
Transcoding has begun.
CCE vaf file: 100 %
Transcoding has begun.
CCE mpv file: 100 %
CCE done test #9
Closing program
Video Encoding finished.

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- 2/17/2002 3:38:50 AM
- Free on drive C: 23546.84 mb
- Video Pulldown
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Executing Pulldown. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\pulldown\pulldown.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CCE_Encoded_Video_NTSC.mpv" "C:\CD Transfer\Video\DVD2SVCD Movie Files\Pulldown_Encoded_Video_NTSC.mpv"
Video pulldown finished.

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- 2/17/2002 3:47:47 AM
- Free on drive C: 22382.38 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TitlePicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 2/17/2002 3:47:53 AM
- Free on drive C: 22377.84 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 2/17/2002 3:47:56 AM
- Free on drive C: 22377.78 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 799 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\CD Transfer\Video\DVD2SVCD Movie Files\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of C:\CD Transfer\Video\DVD2SVCD Movie Files\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2693 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 2695
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 799 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\CD Transfer\Video\DVD2SVCD Movie Files\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 2/17/2002 4:01:17 AM
- Free on drive C: 20790.03 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: C:\CD Transfer\Video\DVD2SVCD Movie Files\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2695.706 seconds C:\CD Transfer\Video\DVD2SVCD Movie Files\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing: C:\CD Transfer\Video\DVD2SVCD Movie Files\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
2843.873 seconds C:\CD Transfer\Video\DVD2SVCD Movie Files\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Analyzing finished.

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- 2/17/2002 4:03:05 AM
- Free on drive C: 20790.03 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 11

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --cue-file="C:\CD Transfer\Video\DVD2SVCD Movie Files\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="C:\CD Transfer\Video\DVD2SVCD Movie Files\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "C:\CD Transfer\Video\DVD2SVCD Movie Files\VCDXBuild_Script_1.xml"
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- 2/17/2002 4:06:38 AM
- Free on drive C: 19980.03 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 10

CD image #2: CD_Image_File_CD2.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --cue-file="C:\CD Transfer\Video\DVD2SVCD Movie Files\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="C:\CD Transfer\Video\DVD2SVCD Movie Files\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" "C:\CD Transfer\Video\DVD2SVCD Movie Files\VCDXBuild_Script_2.xml"
Executing:
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Executing:
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CD-Image creation finished.

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- 2/17/2002 4:10:11 AM
- Free on drive C: 19180.50 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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[chainsaw135]

There is tons of information on this site that will tell you if you need to use force film and why. Here is a test if you load up the vob files with dvd2avi and press "f5" then watch the Statistics window You'll see Video type, if it says Film or is more then 90% Film then force film should be used, If its not mostly film based then you might wanna go read the guides in this forum on how to encode and with the different types of video.

Is there a reason why you didnt use the internal ripper? I backed up jarassic park 3 but i used the internal ripper and it turned out fine.

[markrb]

Also make sure to read the Newbie guide and Q + A. In it you will notice that fireburner is not recomended for burning the bin files created by DVD2SVCD.

Also what are you using to play the files? Do not use Windows Media Player. Use a Software DVD program like WinDVD.

It is recomended that you always use the internal routines for ripping. There is a way to PIPE files ripped by SmartRipper. Do a quick search I don't have the time right now to explain it. It has been covered several times before.

It is also possible that you burned the bin files too fast. Slow the burn to 4X and try to play it again.


Mark

[RShile]

chainsaw135 and markrb, thanks for the replys.

The reason I used Smart Ripper is that the last movie I used DVD2SVCD's internal ripper, the audio and video were slightly out of sync. I don't know if that had anything to do with it, but I'm experimenting.

I played back the raw MPEG2 files using the ATI MMC 7.5 file player. The ATI DVD player won't play SVCD disks, so I didn't play the SVCD on the computer.

I'll try a 4X burn, but I'm skeptical considering the jerky playback of the raw MPEG2.

[chainsaw135]

Well if your raw mpeg 2 file is jerky then its not because you burned at a higher speed...the fault is in your encode somewhere
If you could just for the heck of it, Use the internal ripper to ripp the vobs files you have already done, or if you have the disk handy re ripp with the internal ripper.

If you wanna re ripp using the already ripped vob files then just make a new directory where your newly ripped files will go, then go load the ifo file up and ripp with the internal ripper, make sure the files you are ripping are going in to a different directory then the original vobs tho:) THen delete the old vob files or copy the new ones in the directory which where you want them. Then re do the whole process, also if you could report back after thats done lets us know how it went.

[ev]

Personally I think you're better off using Nero to burn images. The other thing you could try is encoding with a lower max av bitrate. By the way, have you tried the latest version of DVD2SVCD?

[RShile]

I burned the Bin/Cue files with CDRWin at 4X and the result is beautiful.

I previously ignored the advice to burn at 4X max, as SVCDs created with Flask/bbMPEG came out fine burned at 24X. I guess the files created by DVD2SVCD are more "delicate".

Thanks for the help
Roger

[gerti67]

Hi RShile,

many thanx for reporting back with your success. :)

So we can file this under "closed cases". ;)

Greetings,
Gerti