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worknstiff
13th October 2017, 14:39
I have recently been playing around with my new home theater build that has a great new 1070 video card. It plays the "original" 3D disks beautifully, even better that my Oppo 93 actually, BUT I have a problem with PowerDVD14 playing inMUX BD Rebuilder stuff. I have been playing around with creating 3D MKV's using Make MKV , Clone BD and even Pavtube ByteCopy but have yet to find a way that keeps the visual quality of the original disk. Maybe some one on here has figured out either a way to do this better or even a better playback device than PowerDVD. I look forward to some suggestions from the more knowledgeable, smarter people that frequent these forums, thanks.

gonca
14th October 2017, 00:00
Don't know if it will help with PDVD 14 but you can try (lay off tiny Lathe)
OUTPUT_3D_ISO=1
Mount the ISO in a virtual drive and see if it helps
Then you can always use ImgBUrn to convert it to a folder output if you wish

Ch3vr0n
14th October 2017, 10:30
imgburn doesn't convert ISO to folder. Imgburn burns the iso, that's it. you can't convert an ssif using 3D iso to folder structure without the virtual ssif files becoming real and doubling the actual size taken on the harddrive.

gonca
14th October 2017, 11:20
@Ch3vr0n
Mount the ISO in a virtual drive and see if it helps

ImgBurn would see it as a disk
ImgBurn can copy a disc to folder
Yes the size does double, or close to it, but it is on hdd, to test the issue
Any ideas to help the OP

Ch3vr0n
14th October 2017, 11:53
It would see the ISO as a disc in a drive yes, but it still can't copy it to a folder. That's a job for a tool with a ripper like AnyDVD or even more basic windows explore. IMGBurn can burn iso and folders TO a disc, it CANNOT 'rip/convert/copy' FROM iso TO folder.

If you think it does, you are either saying it wrong or have no clue how IMGBurn works or what it can('t) do.

As to PowerDVD 14 not liking the inmux. That was established long ago, maybe @jdobbs will find out why sooner or later or fix for it.

As to solution

@op: CloneBD does have LOSSLESS option during conversion to mkv. Both lossless video and audio. Keeps it 100% intact

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gonca
14th October 2017, 12:31
but it still can't copy it to a folder
My mistake but you don't need a ripper, Windows Explorer will work or BD_RB for that matter

Ch3vr0n
14th October 2017, 12:38
windows explorer WILL WORK to copy the contents yes, but not without doubling the size. BDRB does have a way to do "lossless" one way or another, just no specific "lossless" setting.

gonca
14th October 2017, 13:03
Just use FORCE_NO_ENCODE=1 in ini
As for CloneBD lossless frame packed 3D MKV, it seems most players don't like it. It has to be re-encoded, as per elby website

Ch3vr0n
14th October 2017, 14:03
That's a player mkv support issue, not a CloneBD one :)

gonca
14th October 2017, 15:57
Didn't CloneBD have the same issue with 2D MKV lossless until recently. A remux would usually fix the issue

That's a player mkv support issue, not a CloneBD one
Perhaps.

worknstiff
14th October 2017, 16:51
Thanks gonca, I'll try to use FORCE_NO_ENCODE=1 in ini, along with the OUTPUT_3D_ISO=1, and see if mounting it will let PowerDVD play it without problems. I didn't think Clone BD would let you create "Full 3D" MKV's, only SBS stuff. Of course they may have changed it lately and I haven't kept up, lol.

gonca
14th October 2017, 17:51
Clone BD would let you create "Full 3D" MKV
Version 1.1.6
Like I said though, players don't like the CloneBD version
Maybe a remux thru MKVToolNix will help?
Might be similar to the 2D issue they had

Try BD_RB and that might help establish whether its a player issue

gonca
15th October 2017, 17:26
Just double checked
Might be FORCE_NOENCODE=1