Poll: Avisynth Version Usage 2017 (what do you usually use)

[StainlessS]

Since it's been a couple of years since qyot27 Poll, [EDIT: https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=171974 ]
I figured there should be a new poll to see where the situation stands today.
Alpha builds of 2.6 standard should not be used by anybody at all, but is an option (as I like a good giggle).
I have not differentiated between stable and development versions of Avs+.
I would like to know whether or not there is any point in further support for v2.58
and would like to drop such support entirely.
Unlike some polls, we throw this open to everyone and dont limit to only
the Devs forums (lots of execration for XP haters here).

Good luck everybody, and I hope your pick wins :) [No prizes I'm afraid]

EDIT: Poll will auto close after 14 days.

[tebasuna51]

I have the Groucho Avisynth Version Selector (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=172124) to test any version, also a 2.58 MT.

And I have installed both AviSynth+, 32 and 64-bit, but my preference, and vote, is for AviSynth+, 64-bit
Without changes works AviSynth 32 only tools, like BeHappy.
And I can select version (if a plugin don't have 64 bit version) using the 32 or 64 bit version of the tool than call AviSynth (x264, VirtualDub,...)

[dipje]

Stable or development build of avisynth+ ? Isn't there just one version, the latest build as is. The avisynth+ official website (and thus downloads ) have been abandoned AFAIK. Has nothing to do with stable or dev, more with one person taking over and the website not updated / able to update.

Anyway, doesn't matter since you don't make a difference between them anyway in your poll.

I do sort of miss Vapoursynth in here. It's not 'an avisynth' version of course, but avisynth+ is also a quite different beast to normal avisynth these days. And the only reason I picked avisynth+ in your poll is because that is what I install if I have to do any benchmarking in avisynth or something. 99% of the time I don't have avisynth the installed anymore and use Vapoursynth.

[Andouille]

Avisynth 2.58 tsp MT version5(mod seraphy)

[videoFred]

I have the Groucho Avisynth Version Selector (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=172124) to test any version

Me too... great tool.


I'm using Avisynth+ 32 bits most of the time.

Fred.

[kuchikirukia]

I use 2.6 MT because setmtmode(5,1) stops a heavy filter chain from bugging out.

[johnmeyer]

According to the version statement, I use "AVISynth 2.60, build: Mar 9 2013 [13:28:27] (c) 2000-2011 Ben Rudiak-Gould, et al."

I keep trying other versions, but always find myself coming back to this one. I am still running under Win XP 32-bit, even though I have Win7 64-bit on the same computer.

[StainlessS]

Well, John (somewhat exasperated, and a bit pissed),
If that is what you use, dont be embarassed about it, let the world know of your naughty habits.
Avisynth v2.6 (proper) was released in 2015, if you are happy with an Alpha version, good luck to you (As I said, I like a good laugh,
there is always one, isnt there)
I like v2.6 standard, I'm sure that the new found pretenders are good at some things (uber respect Pinterf, we loves you)
but I'm a bit of a Stick-In-The-Mud., I shall change one day, but not today.

Got me 8 cans to beer to get rid of before I can get some shut eye, wish me luck (not sure I can do It).

[hello_hello]

According to the version statement, I use "AVISynth 2.60, build: Mar 9 2013 [13:28:27] (c) 2000-2011 Ben Rudiak-Gould, et al."

I keep trying other versions, but always find myself coming back to this one. I am still running under Win XP 32-bit, even though I have Win7 64-bit on the same computer.

Avisynth version 2.6 final runs fine on XP for me.

[johnmeyer]

So, is everyone telling me that I'm using an alpha version?? Where do I get the "real" 2.6?

[StainlessS]

Avisynth version 2.6 final runs fine on XP for me.

And me, if not would be quite useless. Thanks HH, Lovely to see that you have not yet commited Harry Carry.

[StainlessS]

John, try have a look here:- https://sourceforge.net/projects/avisynth2/

[hello_hello]

I tend to download programs from VideoHelp. They're usually up to date, stuff's easy to find, and generally there's links to previous versions. The "old versions" collections can be quite handy.

For Avisynth: https://www.videohelp.com/software/Avisynth

[johnmeyer]

Thanks guys.

[nhope]

AviSynth 2.6 MT here. Would like to "modernize" and use AviSynth+ 64-bit, and have dabbled in the the 32-bit version, but the hunt for a compatible set of dependencies for my work (mostly QTGMC, converting frame rates, slomo, denoising, defishing) puts me off. Just assembling an updated set of dependencies for 2.6 MT a few months ago (listed at the top of this very old page (http://www.bubblevision.com/underwater-video/Vegas-YouTube-Vimeo.htm)) took me a good few hours of detective work (simple posts from those in the know like this (https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1733741#post1733741) are a godsend). I mean, how many branches and versions of MVtools are there now?? It's a minefield, and it's not surprising that many users settle on "old" versions that they know will work. Of course that's also part of the fun of using developing software, and different systems/scenarios may require different versions. But I wish there was an easier way for the regular user to find "generally currently recommended" versions of plugins for each version of AviSynth.

[Sharc]

+1
For very much the same reasons I am still on 2.6 standard.

[stax76]

For people who are worried that it takes time to get things running on a new scripting platform or have a problem to get something particular running staxrip can be useful.


staxrip has an dialog for plugin and tool management called apps dialog, it only supports x64, included are about 50 avisynth/vapoursynth plugins/scripts.

https://postimg.org/image/56s8pli2x/


It does manual plugin loading:

https://postimg.org/image/pbfq7rcgh/


It has a code editor:

https://postimg.org/image/ercibzl2l/


It creates clean scripts, batch files and log file which can be useful to learn how things work.

It runs best on Win 10 creators update, 4K display and minimum skylake, maxwell or polaris for H.265 hardware encoding.


test build download:

https://github.com/stax76/staxrip/blob/master/md/test-build.md


hope it works :)

[Groucho2004]

stax, kinda off-topic, don't you think?

[stax76]

stax, kinda off-topic, don't you think?

partly maybe, sorry to bother

[johnmeyer]

AviSynth 2.6 MT here. Would like to "modernize" and use AviSynth+ 64-bit, and have dabbled in the the 32-bit version, but the hunt for a compatible set of dependencies for my work (mostly QTGMC, converting frame rates, slomo, denoising, defishing) puts me off. Just assembling an updated set of dependencies for 2.6 MT a few months ago (listed at the top of this very old page (http://www.bubblevision.com/underwater-video/Vegas-YouTube-Vimeo.htm)) took me a good few hours of detective work (simple posts from those in the know like this (https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1733741#post1733741) are a godsend). I mean, how many branches and versions of MVtools are there now?? It's a minefield, and it's not surprising that many users settle on "old" versions that they know will work. Of course that's also part of the fun of using developing software, and different systems/scenarios may require different versions. But I wish there was an easier way for the regular user to find "generally currently recommended" versions of plugins for each version of AviSynth.Thanks Nick!

[Groucho2004]

Just assembling an updated set of dependencies for 2.6 MT a few months ago (listed at the top of this very old page (http://www.bubblevision.com/underwater-video/Vegas-YouTube-Vimeo.htm)) took me a good few hours of detective work (simple posts from those in the know like this (https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1733741#post1733741) are a godsend). I mean, how many branches and versions of MVtools are there now?? It's a minefield, and it's not surprising that many users settle on "old" versions that they know will work.
Agreed, for users who aren't up to date with all the development branches of Avisynth and plugins it must be highly confusing and I understand that they are reluctant to update.
As for the plugins I recommended back in 2015 - Ditch them and use mvtools2 (https://github.com/pinterf/mvtools/releases), masktools2 (https://github.com/pinterf/masktools/releases) and rgtools (https://github.com/pinterf/RgTools/releases) from pinterf who has been improving those alongside Avisynth+ for quite some time. They are faster and many bugs have been fixed.
If you run into any trouble with new plugins and/or Avisynth(+), use AVSMeter (https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=165528) which most likely will point out the problems (mostly related to missing dependencies).

[TheFluff]

AviSynth 2.6 MT here. Would like to "modernize" and use AviSynth+ 64-bit, and have dabbled in the the 32-bit version, but the hunt for a compatible set of dependencies for my work (mostly QTGMC, converting frame rates, slomo, denoising, defishing) puts me off. Just assembling an updated set of dependencies for 2.6 MT a few months ago (listed at the top of this very old page (http://www.bubblevision.com/underwater-video/Vegas-YouTube-Vimeo.htm)) took me a good few hours of detective work (simple posts from those in the know like this (https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1733741#post1733741) are a godsend). I mean, how many branches and versions of MVtools are there now?? It's a minefield, and it's not surprising that many users settle on "old" versions that they know will work. Of course that's also part of the fun of using developing software, and different systems/scenarios may require different versions. But I wish there was an easier way for the regular user to find "generally currently recommended" versions of plugins for each version of AviSynth.
what, are you trying to imply posting a mediafire link to a dll with no versioning info on page 135 of a 300 page thread on doom9 isn't a perfectly reasonable way to distribute software? why do you hate freedom?

[Groucho2004]

what, are you trying to imply posting a mediafire link to a dll with no versioning info on page 135 of a 300 page thread on doom9 isn't a perfectly reasonable way to distribute software? why do you hate freedom?Good one. :)

Many hobby coders don't bother with versioning or they haven't even heard of version resources. As for Avisynth plugins, I don't think there is any mention of including versioning on the Avisynth Wiki dev pages which is where most coders would get started.

[StainlessS]

There is a tremendous thread on adding a version resource here:- https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=173845&highlight=resource

I've not yet gotten around to doing that yet myself :(

[qyot27]

AviSynth+, 32-bit. Mostly because I'm on a mini-PC that only runs 32-bit Windows. I occasionally do limited tests with 64-bit AviSynth+ under 64-bit Ubuntu using Wine or a 64-bit Windows 10 guest (if I want to go fully native), but those are more for testing purposes because it's cumbersome and/or resource strapped.

[MysteryX]

How about adding VapourSynth into the mix? Several members of this forum regularly use VapourSynth.

[StainlessS]

MysteryX, Once the Poll is set up, you cannot change anything (I could not even change to title over the top of the Poll in first post, I can only
change the thread title displayed from outside of thread).
Perhaps you could do a VS poll yourself.
Poll option, is at the bottom of the Create New Thread Dialog, once submitted, you can add the title over the poll count, and
select number of poll options, and text for each option. Also can set time limit for auto closure.

EDIT: There is also option to display member's who voted and option each voted for, on poll closure. [EDIT: I did not choose that].

[MysteryX]

I could test it out with a "are you pro-Trump or pro-Hillary" vote.

Just kidding!

[dipje]

I also asked about Vapoursynth :). Let's just post a 'vapoursynth +1'. If Vapoursynth is catching on we destroy the topic making clear Vapoursynth is the way to go, if Vapoursynth is still a 'niche' product it won't have any effect on your thread :P

[nhope]

...As for the plugins I recommended back in 2015 - Ditch them and use mvtools2 (https://github.com/pinterf/mvtools/releases), masktools2 (https://github.com/pinterf/masktools/releases) and rgtools (https://github.com/pinterf/RgTools/releases) from pinterf who has been improving those alongside Avisynth+ for quite some time. They are faster and many bugs have been fixed...

Thank you. I had spotted those but thought they may be somehow specific to AviSynth+. I have now tried them and they seem to work OK with 2.6 MT. I will test further then update my list. But seeing the lead that AviSynth+ 64-bit has in this poll, I will soon revisit that.

[Groucho2004]

I do sort of miss Vapoursynth in here. It's not 'an avisynth' version of course, but avisynth+ is also a quite different beast to normal avisynth these days.
How difficult is it to read the title of this poll and figuring out the difference between apples and oranges?
AVS+ is still Avisynth, with some added features. Vapoursynth is the different beast. If you're so eager, just set up your own poll.

[stax76]

I also would like to see a vapoursynth option in the next poll (begin of 2018 for instance), additionally I think it's better to make it multi select for people who use 2 platforms equally often, due to the feedback I get I know vapoursynth is quite popular under staxrip users.

OT: I think there wasn't a poll about encoders this year (x264, x265, nvencc, qsvencc etc.)

[dipje]

How difficult is it to read the title of this poll and figuring out the difference between apples and oranges?
AVS+ is still Avisynth, with some added features. Vapoursynth is the different beast. If you're so eager, just set up your own poll.

Easy easy.. I said 'sort of' and picked Avisynth+ with a reason because that's the Avisynth version I use (every now and then) and I know Vapoursynth isn't exactly a direct 1-on-1 Avisynth replacement (for a lot of people).

I'm not eager at all. If I wanted to know what everyone is using I would've started a poll myself.

[Motenai Yoda]

Actually using both SET's 2.6 32bit MT mod and + 64bit
btw + branch looks to take a lot in compile time...

[bxyhxyh]

avs+ 32-bit mostly and avs standard

[StainlessS]

Hmm, where did all them there 2.58's come from, drat!

Come on Avs 2.6 Standard guys, vote will-ya. Them there avs64+'ers are winning https://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/frech/o094.gif

Only 6 days till closure.

[Groucho2004]

Come on Avs 2.6 Standard guys, vote will-ya. Them there avs64+'ers are winning https://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/frech/o094.gifI think some (well, at least one) picked "Avs 2.6 Standard" even though they are in fact using a 2.6 Alpha and not aware of it.

Edit: Never mind, brain fart.

[StainlessS]

I think some (well, at least one) picked "Avs 2.6 Standard" even though they are in fact using a 2.6 Alpha and not aware of it.

.There is also option to display member's who voted and option each voted for, on poll closure. [EDIT: I did not choose that].

Anyone who does use 2.6 Alpha, would have their identities protected, I would not reveal to the world their nasty little secrets.
Having said that, if they wanna vote for 2.6 standard, then thats one more vote for us, me is OK with that.

May the best side win https://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/sportlich/p035.gif https://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/sportlich/a010.gif

[chummy]

Avisynth+64+MTmode. Without multithreading avisynth is too slow for me, and avs+ has the most reliable MT which is not crashing everytime in my usage. In older version(2.6) MT crashed too much in some scripts. I using Staxrip which work for a specific script plugin while i cant make it run with ffmpeg.

[GMJCZP]

I use Avisynth 2.6 MT.
I would like to try Avisynth+ 32 bits but for some reason I can not install the latest versions (neither in XP nor in W7). I need help for this.

[Sharc]

I use Avisynth 2.6 MT.
I would like to try Avisynth+ 32 bits but for some reason I can not install the latest versions (neither in XP nor in W7). I need help for this.

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1720988&postcount=1

[GMJCZP]

Thank you, Sharc. I'll try it.

[StainlessS]

Last chance to get your vote in, poll closes in about 17 hours from time of this post.

EDIT: Close time is on the grey bar (just above graph) at top of each page, probably shows different time dependent upon time zone.

[real.finder]

thanks to Mp_Pipeline I can use what I want by load avs .dll inside mpp block, but recently most avs I use is avs+ both 64 and 32

[StainlessS]

Wish I had opted for revealing the identities of those that still use v2.58 (shame them in public), but alas, did not choose that. :(

It is nice to see a quite respectable result in favour of avs (Current) standard, still got some legs I think.

The new pretender (64bit) seems to have taken the vote, but with still nearly one hour to go, there could still yet be an upset in expectation
(possibly, maybe, perhaps).
[I was up listening to the Brexit vote, We were absolutely gonna stay in Europe. Switched to Heart FM for an hour or so, switched
back to Brexit, and we was OUT, so things could well change in the last hour here].

Thank you everybody who took part in this poll, you are the Bees Knees. https://www.cosgan.de/images/midi/froehlich/k015.gif

[hello_hello]

I've become schizophrenic. I have the standard Avisynth installed, but MeGUI has switched to use the portable Avisynth+ by default (you can choose which version it uses though).

As of the last update, MeGUI now refuses to use Avisynth 2.5.8 if you have it installed and will use it's portable version of Avisynth+ instead.

[tim_ettinger]

Wish I had opted for revealing the identities of those that still use v2.58 (shame them in public), but alas, did not choose that. :(

If you click on the numbers it will reveal the names of everyone not using Avisynth+ 64.

[StainlessS]

Thank you Tim, Named and Shamed. :devil:

[Andouille]

Shamed for what, exactly ?

[Reel.Deel]

Shamed for what, exactly ?

Using AviSynth 2.58. You're missing out on a lot by not using a modern version.