Remux BluRay and keep information

[sirt]

Hi all,

Well, I try to save my own BluRay. There is an 'all-in-one' (such as MakeMKV) stuff which allows to do that an remux all to .mkv but I don't like it as I do not have full control and some tags are added which I don't want.

So I try another solution : it consists in

- Copying BluRay content to my computer with Blu-ray Disc Ripper. So I get everything including all .m2ts files and everything from the BD.

- Demuxing .m2ts (generally the higher in size) with tSMuxerGUI

- Remuxing everything with MKVToolnix or MKVmerge.

It works but I have to manually enter all information regarding track names (language, subtitles). Chapters are not extracted either. But there is a stuff called ChapterGrabber which allows to extract them.

Is there a way to retain information of Audio & Subtitle tracks which are extracted via tSMUxer ? Actually, I don't want to put once again that information manually on MKVmerge or MKVToolnix. It is as real waste of time and I can do mistakes. What can I do ? It is clear it is possible as MakeMKV one click program manages to do that.I heard something about index but I have no clue what to do.

Note There is something totally basic I just thought about : simply open original .m2ts on MKVToolnix. Then in that case, I keep information I want, so it is actually quicker than demuxing with tsMuxerGUI and reopening all separate files on MKVToolNix. But Chapters still don't appear. As I said, I can simply get them from the BD with ChapterGrabber and add them in MKVToolNix but I wonder if there is another way by getting it from another part of the BD.

[sneaker_ger]

The chapters are in the .mpls files, not the .m2ts files. Open the .mpls files in mkvmerge.

[sirt]

Hi,

Thanks for your answer. Actually I have a folder called BDMV > PLAYLIST full of .mpls files. I don't know which one to use, but I guess I have to 'try' some. For example, in my case, 00001.mpls contains a lot of things including chapters. As I've alreeady extracted Chapters with ChapterGrabber I can 'guess' these are the correct one.

Do I need to load that on MKVToolnix then uncheck other things excepted these chapters ? It seems to be difficult to find the exact .mpls as I have something like 50 I am not sure there is one with Chapters only. It doesn't seem to have a relation with .m2ts name : in my case movie was 00011.m2ts but 00011.mpls is related to something else (probably some bonus stuff).

[QBhd]

Use BDInfo to find the playlist you are looking for... It's a small and simple program. :)

http://www.videohelp.com/software/BDInfo

QB

[sirt]

Use BDInfo to find the playlist you are looking for... It's a small and simple program. :)

http://www.videohelp.com/software/BDInfo

QB

Oh yes, I forgot about that one. Actually to be honest, it is a pain to do that manually. I don't understand why MKVtoolnix doesn't recognize the chapters itself. I extract full BluRay with Blu-ray Disc Ripper then open biggest .m2ts. Then isn't there a way it automatically opens adequate chapters ? Using BD Info or ChapterGrabber means I have to extract and find chapters manually which is a waste of time.

[sneaker_ger]

There are no chapters in m2ts. Simple as that. When you add an mpls into the GUI it should show info about all the playlists to choose from. It will then copy video + audio + subs + chapters. The problem is you trying to make things as complicated as possible then complaining it is complicated.

[QBhd]

And wait for the fun of a Blu-Ray where it's not just one m2ts that makes up the main movie, but many... I do it the complicated way, but I like the complicated way since it gives you more control. And the first step is to load the Blu-Ray into BDInfo (which takes just a few seconds)... find the playlist that is the main movie (usually the playlist with the longest runtime) then use that playlist either in tsMuxer or MKVtoolnix. For me that is the first steps.

QB

[sirt]

There are no chapters in m2ts. Simple as that. When you add an mpls into the GUI it should show info about all the playlists to choose from. It will then copy video + audio + subs + chapters. The problem is you trying to make things as complicated as possible then complaining it is complicated.

What I mean by 'complicated' is that I open .m2ts then I will have to 'try' to drag each .mpls on MKVToolNix and check whether chapters are provided...as I said I have something like 50 .mpls. It seems only one contains all chapters.

[sirt]

And wait for the fun of a Blu-Ray where it's not just one m2ts that makes up the main movie, but many... I do it the complicated way, but I like the complicated way since it gives you more control. And the first step is to load the Blu-Ray into BDInfo (which takes just a few seconds)... find the playlist that is the main movie (usually the playlist with the longest runtime) then use that playlist either in tsMuxer or MKVtoolnix. For me that is the first steps.

QB

Then what can you do if several m2ts are involved ? I have seen cases with different versions (director cut, cinema...) like Gladiator but even if there are several 'big' m2ts, it is possible to process each one separately. But I can't imagine there are BluRay split in several m2ts. How can you suceed to remux then ? Could you explain the method in details ?

[sneaker_ger]

You are not supposed to open the m2ts at all. Open one mpls and let MKVToolNix GUI scan all of them. Then select the one that seems to have the correct duration/size/etc.

[sirt]

Ok.

On the other hand there is something else I don't understand : I opened biggest m2ts on MKVToolNix for my movie (there is only big around 32 GB). Then I see 3 Audio : DTS-HD English, DTS French & DTS-HD German on MKVToollNix (and also TSDemux).

But when I did similar with MakeMKV and obtained final mkv file I ended with 4 tracks e.g. there is another DTS English file ! I demuxed it and indeed there 2 English tracks, DTS-HD being bigger than DTS English. I'm really confused right now ; from where that DTS has been detected by MakeMKV ? As I have only one big m2ts - remaining m2ts files being very short in size (movie being 2:05 and biggest m2ts after being 13:42) - it is clear that DTS is 'hidden' in the biggest m2ts. How can I also detect it as MakeMKV does ? I guess it has something to do with these mpls but I let MKVToolNix check all and then I can't find more than these 3 tracks; so if I select the one below, I will be able to remux a file with 3 tracks and not 4.

To sum up, I guess my problem is to extract DTS core from DTS HD MA via MKVToolnix and also other 'hidden' audio (automatically).

http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/98605084mp.png

[sneaker_ger]

Did you make MakeMKV copy the English DTS-HD Track into two tracks? 1. DTS-HD MA 2. DTS Core only

[sirt]

Actually, after loading BluRay on MakeMKV, I can select streams and DTS-HD English & DTS English are available - apparently automatically, I didn't set anything. Then I just have to tick them if I want. That is not the case if I load biggest m2ts on MKVToolnix or TSMUxerGUI ; same if I drag mpls on MKVToolNix and choose the existing configuration as I did just above. It is clear DTS-HD contains both and that DTS needs to be extracted. On MKVToolNix, being on the track there is a 'Reduce to core' option on Audio properties blotter. Perhaps it will reduce DTS-HD to DTS but then I won't have both.

[sirt]

Then, indeed, if I tick 'Reduce to core' for DTS-HD MA file, final mkv will feature these additional DTS files I want...then how can I keep both at the same time on MKVToolNix ?

[sneaker_ger]

Add mpls twice, reduce one of the DTS-HD MA tracks to core, deactivate all other duplicate tracks.

[sirt]

Lol, don't you think that is weird ? Actually it is not like it MKVToolNix 'recognizes' these tracks itself.

[sneaker_ger]

Not weird, just a design choice. Storing the core twice is a waste of space anyways. Do your players require this?

[sirt]

As you might bet my player plays a few second of DTS HD MA then stucks. Of course this only happens with mkv file ; if I just play original BluRay it works.

[tebasuna51]

Seems a CopyRight protection of your player using mkv's.

[hubblec4]

Hi Sirt

You could try my chapterEditor -> Multi Editons Editor(BD2mkv) which is designed to make mkv's from Blurays in a short way. You can preset some features and then you get an mtxcfg for MkvToolNix, so you have only one mux process.