DVD Rebuilder Question

[SkilledAbbot]

Hello all.

I haven't used DVD-RB in 10 years and after reinstalling I ran into a blip. JDobbs emailed me back on the same day. Thank you so much for that!

My question:
It's been 10 years since Ive used the product so I checked the site to see if there were any updates. There aren't.

So I am wondering should I use the included tools as is, or download newer versions? For example, HCencoder?

I only ask because my PC is much faster than the single core of days past...and I'd imagine the newer tools have had speed and performance enhancements.

[thescrapyard]

You can use the latest 0.28 of HCEnc, I use it with no issues but find turning off multiple encodes makes it a more stable and rarely causes any issues with HCEnc. Maybe the scripts I use causes the issues and can't cope with multiple encodes of different streams or parts of the same project. Just rename HCEnc.exe to HCBatch.exe and copy it to where the encoders are and overwrite the original file when asked with HCEnc 0.28

I'm now running an Intel i7 4790k with slight overclocking and 8 cores, compared to my original quad core intel from about 6 years ago its now much faster encodes. Coupled with faster hard drives makes for speedy encodes. I use slow filters vai avisynth that were struggling to manage 6-8fps but my currents set-up gives me around 25-30fps if using the slow noise filters but easily gets 150fps to 200fps with no filters. Quiet a difference to my original set-up when I first started using DVD-RB Pro

Its just a shame the DGDecode.dll can't be updated to the last versions with SSE code to squeeze a bit more out of the encode speeds, but the quality is still above anything else, thanks to HCEnc and AviSynth working with each other

[mparade]

Is Cinema Craft Encoder SP3 Retail compatible with DVD-RB Pro V1.28.2? I have found no other commercial MPEG-1&MPEG-2 encoder one can buy nowadays...:mad:

[jdobbs]

No it's not. I got tired of having to start over every time they came out with a new version. I'd already done it 3 times as they changed there settings files.

But, IMHO, HC Encoder is every bit as good, it's free, and it's included with DVD-RB.

[mparade]

No it's not. I got tired of having to start over every time they came out with a new version. I'd already done it 3 times as they changed there settings files.

But, IMHO, HC Encoder is every bit as good, it's free, and it's included with DVD-RB.

Nice. Do you recommend to update it in your package?

[jdobbs]

Not really. While there is a newer version of HC -- the updates really don't apply to the way it is used with DVD-RB.

[mparade]

Not really. While there is a newer version of HC -- the updates really don't apply to the way it is used with DVD-RB.

I would like to control the TargetSize (sectors) by using the hidden setting TargetSectors=nnnnnn, but it seems DVD-RB ignores the parameter. I tried to find out from the help menu and Rebuilder.txt what I have missed out but without any success so far. Is it possible at all to use a unique TargetSize for my HC One Pass CQ VBR encodes? (I have a lot of 1-layer DVD and just tried to shrink them using the predicted CQ values and a unique TargetSector parameter, but it seems there is a limit in TargetSize under which the program does not let me go).

Your help would be appreciated.

[jdobbs]

Moved to this thread from FAQ.

[manolito]

Not really. While there is a newer version of HC -- the updates really don't apply to the way it is used with DVD-RB.

Allow me to disagree...

While some newer HCenc features like new color spaces, support for higher resolutions and other things really do not apply to DVD conversions, there are a lot of other things which have improved over the years and which do affect quality. Just download the latest version and have a look at the version history.

One particular thing in DVD-RB which is totally outdated is the use of a CQ 1-pass mode with prediction. For many years HCenc has its own far superior 1-pass VBR mode, and this mode should really get integrated into DVD-RB. I have done it for myself with a wrapper I wrote, but regular users are shut out from using this new feature.


Cheers
manolito

[rjd0309]

I would like to control the TargetSize (sectors) by using the hidden setting TargetSectors=nnnnnn, but it seems DVD-RB ignores the parameter.

The parameter works for me. I use it frequently.

Rebuilder.ini -

[Options]
#TargetSectors=500000

[mparade]

The parameter works for me. I use it frequently.

Rebuilder.ini -

[Options]
#TargetSectors=500000

Nice to hear! So the problem must be on my side. I try to find out which option can block this parameter.

Thanks for the info!

[mparade]

The parameter works for me. I use it frequently.

Rebuilder.ini -

[Options]
#TargetSectors=500000

Due to some reason, here DVD-RB stick to -- TargetSize (sectors):1*998*736 for analyzing VTS_01 for the optimal CQ factor. I am using TargetSectors=500000 in the .ini file, though. TargetSizeMode=0 couldn't be the reason? I have run out of ideas.

Any help would be appreciated.

[jdobbs]

You can't have the "#" at the front of it. That is the equivalent to commenting it out.

Look here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=748168#post748168) for more information.

[soneca]

You can use the latest 0.28 of HCEnc, I use it with no issues but find turning off multiple encodes makes it a more stable and rarely causes any issues with HCEnc. Maybe the scripts I use causes the issues and can't cope with multiple encodes of different streams or parts of the same project. Just rename HCEnc.exe to HCBatch.exe and copy it to where the encoders are and overwrite the original file when asked with HCEnc 0.28

I'm now running an Intel i7 4790k with slight overclocking and 8 cores, compared to my original quad core intel from about 6 years ago its now much faster encodes. Coupled with faster hard drives makes for speedy encodes. I use slow filters vai avisynth that were struggling to manage 6-8fps but my currents set-up gives me around 25-30fps if using the slow noise filters but easily gets 150fps to 200fps with no filters. Quiet a difference to my original set-up when I first started using DVD-RB Pro

Its just a shame the DGDecode.dll can't be updated to the last versions with SSE code to squeeze a bit more out of the encode speeds, but the quality is still above anything else, thanks to HCEnc and AviSynth working with each other

You have problems using multiple encoders only with the latest version of HCenc or also with previous versions?
For years I use the 0.26 version with multiple encoders without problems.
I will test the version 0.28.

[soneca]

Allow me to disagree...

While some newer HCenc features like new color spaces, support for higher resolutions and other things really do not apply to DVD conversions, there are a lot of other things which have improved over the years and which do affect quality. Just download the latest version and have a look at the version history.

One particular thing in DVD-RB which is totally outdated is the use of a CQ 1-pass mode with prediction. For many years HCenc has its own far superior 1-pass VBR mode, and this mode should really get integrated into DVD-RB. I have done it for myself with a wrapper I wrote, but regular users are shut out from using this new feature.


Cheers
manolito

Hello manolito, could show some tips on how to implement the 1-pass VBR mode in DVD-Rebuilder Pro using HCenc 0.28?

[mparade]

You can't have the "#" at the front of it. That is the equivalent to commenting it out.

Look here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=748168#post748168) for more information.

Thank you for your help. I am not using "#" at the front of it. I am using "TargetSectors=500000" as one row in the .ini file.

Please find as an attachement my rebuilder.ini file.

[manolito]

Hello manolito, could show some tips on how to implement the 1-pass VBR mode in DVD-Rebuilder Pro using HCenc 0.28?

Sure... ;)

The idea is to bypass Rebuilder's influence on creation of the HC INI file completely. This also means that the user needs to edit HC.ini himself to specify a Matrix or other special commands. Basically it is done by using the QuEnc interface of DVD-RB to call the HC encoder.

If you want to try it, do it like this:

Download and extract the latest HCenc to a folder of your choice. Only the root folder is needed. Rename HCenc_xxx.exe to HCenc.exe.

Download my wrapper tool here:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/039nro

Extract all three files to the HCenc folder you just created.

Run DVD-Rebuilder. Under "Options -> Setup" select "Path to QuEnc" and point it to "HC_RB.exe" or "HC_RB_auto-interlaced.exe" in the HCenc folder. (The auto-interlaced version uses HCenc's auto-interlaced feature where HC determines if the source is interlaced or progressive)
For the Pro version you also must deactivate the option "Multiple Encoder Processes" under "Settings".


From now on to use HCenc you have to select QuEnc as your encoder. To use the new HCenc 1-pass VBR mode all you have to do is select "Single Pass Encode" under the QuEnc options. For other HC options like matrix selection you must edit the HC.ini file.


Cheers
manolito

[soneca]

Thank manolito!
It seems that everything is okay.
In this mode the bitrate redistribution works properly?

[09:50:02] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- DVD-RB v1.28.2
- AVISYNTH 2.6.0.6
- QuEnc 0.28.0.2 encoder selected.
- Source: THE_BACON_BROTHERS_LIVE
- VTS_01: 2.775.583 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 165.749 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 72,0%
- Overall Bitrate : 4.852/3.882Kbs
- Space for Video : 3.275.706KB
- Analyzing VTS_01 for optimal CQ factor.
-- TargetSize (sectors):1.662.420
-- Sampling 1665 of 165749 frames.
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=3,7: 1.971.748
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=4,2: 1.769.717
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=4,4: 1.749.575
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=4,5: 1.659.123
- CQ Value selected: 4,5
- Redistributing Final_CQ: 4,5
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 4.926/2.919/3.882 Kbs
[09:59:15] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 9 minutes.
[09:59:15] Phase II ENCODING started
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 4
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 5
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 6
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 7
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 8
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 9
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 10
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 11
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 12
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 13
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 14
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 15
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 16
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 17
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 18
[10:05:08] Phase II ENCODING completed in 6 minutes.
[10:05:08] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...
- Processing VTS_01
- Reading/processing TMAP table...
- Rebuilding seg 0 VOBID 1 CELLID 1
- Rebuilding seg 1 VOBID 1 CELLID 2
- Rebuilding seg 2 VOBID 1 CELLID 3
- Rebuilding seg 3 VOBID 1 CELLID 4
- Rebuilding seg 4 VOBID 1 CELLID 5
- Rebuilding seg 5 VOBID 1 CELLID 6
- Rebuilding seg 6 VOBID 1 CELLID 7
- Rebuilding seg 7 VOBID 1 CELLID 8
- Rebuilding seg 8 VOBID 1 CELLID 9
- Rebuilding seg 9 VOBID 1 CELLID 10
- Rebuilding seg 10 VOBID 1 CELLID 11
- Rebuilding seg 11 VOBID 1 CELLID 12
- Rebuilding seg 12 VOBID 1 CELLID 13
- Rebuilding seg 13 VOBID 1 CELLID 14
- Rebuilding seg 14 VOBID 1 CELLID 15
- Rebuilding seg 15 VOBID 1 CELLID 16
- Rebuilding seg 16 VOBID 1 CELLID 17
- Rebuilding seg 17 VOBID 1 CELLID 18
- Rebuilding seg 18 VOBID 1 CELLID 19
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_01_0.IFO
- Updating TMAP table...
- Correcting VTS Sectors...
[10:09:37] Phase III, REBUILD completed in 4 minutes.

Done.
[10:09:37] PREPARE/ENCODE/REBUILD completed in 19 min.

[mparade]

Thank manolito!
It seems that everything is okay.
In this mode the bitrate redistribution works properly?

[09:50:02] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- DVD-RB v1.28.2
- AVISYNTH 2.6.0.6
- QuEnc 0.28.0.2 encoder selected.
- Source: THE_BACON_BROTHERS_LIVE
- VTS_01: 2.775.583 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 165.749 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 72,0%
- Overall Bitrate : 4.852/3.882Kbs
- Space for Video : 3.275.706KB
- Analyzing VTS_01 for optimal CQ factor.
-- TargetSize (sectors):1.662.420
-- Sampling 1665 of 165749 frames.
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=3,7: 1.971.748
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=4,2: 1.769.717
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=4,4: 1.749.575
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=4,5: 1.659.123
- CQ Value selected: 4,5
- Redistributing Final_CQ: 4,5
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 4.926/2.919/3.882 Kbs
[09:59:15] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 9 minutes.
[09:59:15] Phase II ENCODING started
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 4
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 5
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 6
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 7
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 8
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 9
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 10
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 11
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 12
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 13
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 14
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 15
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 16
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 17
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 18
[10:05:08] Phase II ENCODING completed in 6 minutes.
[10:05:08] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...
- Processing VTS_01
- Reading/processing TMAP table...
- Rebuilding seg 0 VOBID 1 CELLID 1
- Rebuilding seg 1 VOBID 1 CELLID 2
- Rebuilding seg 2 VOBID 1 CELLID 3
- Rebuilding seg 3 VOBID 1 CELLID 4
- Rebuilding seg 4 VOBID 1 CELLID 5
- Rebuilding seg 5 VOBID 1 CELLID 6
- Rebuilding seg 6 VOBID 1 CELLID 7
- Rebuilding seg 7 VOBID 1 CELLID 8
- Rebuilding seg 8 VOBID 1 CELLID 9
- Rebuilding seg 9 VOBID 1 CELLID 10
- Rebuilding seg 10 VOBID 1 CELLID 11
- Rebuilding seg 11 VOBID 1 CELLID 12
- Rebuilding seg 12 VOBID 1 CELLID 13
- Rebuilding seg 13 VOBID 1 CELLID 14
- Rebuilding seg 14 VOBID 1 CELLID 15
- Rebuilding seg 15 VOBID 1 CELLID 16
- Rebuilding seg 16 VOBID 1 CELLID 17
- Rebuilding seg 17 VOBID 1 CELLID 18
- Rebuilding seg 18 VOBID 1 CELLID 19
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_01_0.IFO
- Updating TMAP table...
- Correcting VTS Sectors...
[10:09:37] Phase III, REBUILD completed in 4 minutes.

Done.
[10:09:37] PREPARE/ENCODE/REBUILD completed in 19 min.

Sorry for keep asking the same question but how can you set -- TargetSize (sectors):1.662.420? Whatever "TargetSectors" parameter I am using in the ini file the program ignores it due to some for me unknown reason. The program always tells Reduction Level for DVD-5: 100,0%.

[Groucho2004]

Sorry for keep asking the same question but how can you set -- TargetSize (sectors):1.662.420? Whatever "TargetSectors" parameter I am using in the ini file the program ignores it due to some for me unknown reason. The program always tells Reduction Level for DVD-5: 100,0%.
Did you read the post that jdobbs linked to in post #13?

Edit: If you writing the number with thousand separators as above it might explain why it does not work for you.

[mparade]

Did you read the post that jdobbs linked to in post #13?

Edit: If you writing the number with thousand separators as above it might explain why it does not work for you.

Thanks for your answer. I am using exactly as I wrote in post #16, as it is written in the help file and in the link above which tells the same as the help file. Sorry for tiring people here with such nonsenses but I really do not understand what I am doing wrong.

[Groucho2004]

Thanks for your answer. I am using exactly as I wrote in post #16, as it is written in the help file and in the link above which tells the same as the help file. Sorry for tiring people here with such nonsenses but I really do not understand what I am doing wrong.
It could take a long time before your attachment is approved, can you post it somewhere else?

[manolito]

Thank manolito!
It seems that everything is okay.
In this mode the bitrate redistribution works properly?


No, you selected the wrong 1-pass mode in the QuEnc options. I do not have the Pro version of DVD-RB installed right now, but there must be another 1-pass option for QuEnc which does not use prediction. That's the one to choose.


Cheers
manolito

[soneca]

Hi manolito, i used the way down without prediction.
Is correct?

http://s20.postimg.org/6ggebd2x9/dvd_rebuilder.png

[soneca]

Sorry for keep asking the same question but how can you set -- TargetSize (sectors):1.662.420? Whatever "TargetSectors" parameter I am using in the ini file the program ignores it due to some for me unknown reason. The program always tells Reduction Level for DVD-5: 100,0%.

I have used the value 2247000 ((2247000 x 2048) x 1,015 = 4,670,883,840 = 4.3501GB) to try to fill the media but has not given effect ... the final size is always in the default DVD Rebuilder, between 4.32 and 4.33GB. :confused:

[mparade]

I have used the value 2247000 ((2247000 x 2048) x 1,015 = 4,670,883,840 = 4.3501GB) to try to fill the media but has not given effect ... the final size is always in the default DVD Rebuilder, between 4.32 and 4.33GB. :confused:

This is the case here also even if I would insert e.g. TargetSectors=999999 in the Rebuilder.ini. It seems DVD-RB doesn't let me make a backup which is shrinked to e.g. 50% of a DVD-5 source. The output seems to be forced to the size of the DVD-5 media regardless of the TargetSectors parameter. But maybe (hopefully) I am completely wrong with this assumption.

[mparade]

It could take a long time before your attachment is approved, can you post it somewhere else?

http://www.mammutmail.com/hu/mail/download/0765b330e404acdc24f2158471c50677

[manolito]

Hi manolito, i used the way down without prediction.
Is correct?


Yes, this is the correct option.

(In the log you posted earlier you had selected the CQ based method)


Cheers
manolito

[Groucho2004]

Due to some reason, here DVD-RB stick to -- TargetSize (sectors):1*998*736 for analyzing VTS_01 for the optimal CQ factor. I am using TargetSectors=500000 in the .ini file, though. TargetSizeMode=0 couldn't be the reason? I have run out of ideas.

Any help would be appreciated.
Have you tried removing the "TargetSizeMode=0" line? Are you using 2-pass mode? It might only work in that mode. It has been a very long time since I used DVD-RB, forgot almost all about what the settings do.
Maybe jbobbs can shed some light.

[mparade]

Have you tried removing the "TargetSizeMode=0" line? Are you using 2-pass mode? It might only work in that mode. It has been a very long time since I used DVD-RB, forgot almost all about what the settings do.
Maybe jbobbs can shed some light.

The same here. Since 2005 I haven't used it, but a lot of very good film only available in DVD-5 format and the conversion from DVD to BD is not perfect (by using the methods I know). Anyway, none of the proposals worked, unfortunately. I am using HC encoder in OPV mode. 2-pass mode did not work either (DVD-RB seems to be forcing noencode on the source if it is under the limit of the size of DVD-5 disc regardless of the TargetSector parameter.

[soneca]

Yes, this is the correct option.

(In the log you posted earlier you had selected the CQ based method)


Cheers
manolito

No, I'm with the bitrate distribution enabled, so that log.

[manolito]

No, I'm with the bitrate distribution enabled, so that log.

I have not used the Pro version of DVD-RB for a long time (I like the free version much better), bit IIRC the "Bitrate Distribution" option was added to the Pro version much later, and it probably is not compatible with my wrapper tool.

The normal method to distribute the bitrate in DVD-RB is cell-based. I recall that some users requested that a distribution method based on the entire movie should be used (there even was a plugin which did just that), and after some time jdobbs (reluctantly) agreed to add that method.

I do not know how exactly this method was implemented, but your earlier log indicates that a couple of prediction runs are executed to determine a suitable CQ value for the whole encode.

This will not work for my wrapper. My tool parses the command line, and if the parameter "-1" is detected, it calls HCenc with the paramter "-1pass". With bitrate distribution enabled the "-1" parameter will probably never be issued.


Cheers
manolito

[Sharc]

...The normal method to distribute the bitrate in DVD-RB is cell-based. I recall that some users requested that a distribution method based on the entire movie should be used (there even was a plugin which did just that), and after some time jdobbs (reluctantly) agreed to add that method.

I do not know how exactly this method was implemented, but your earlier log indicates that a couple of prediction runs are executed to determine a suitable CQ value for the whole encode.
It was found that for optimum redistribution, the redistribution pass should be run with the same CQ value which would yield the target file size with a 1-pass encode (rather than using some CQ based on an educated guess). The purpose of the prediction steps was to find out that CQ value.

[Sharc]

Sorry for keep asking the same question but how can you set -- TargetSize (sectors):1.662.420? Whatever "TargetSectors" parameter I am using in the ini file the program ignores it due to some for me unknown reason.
The syntax for BD-RB and DVD-RB are different.
For DVD-RB it is:
[Options]
CCETargetSectors=2245000
ProcoderTargetSectors=2254000
HCTargetSectors=2250000

[Groucho2004]

The syntax for BD-RB and DVD-RB are different.
For DVD-RB it is:
[Options]
CCETargetSectors=2245000
ProcoderTargetSectors=2254000
HCTargetSectors=2250000
Now that I see it I do remember. It really has been a long time since I used it...

[mparade]

The syntax for BD-RB and DVD-RB are different.
For DVD-RB it is:
[Options]
CCETargetSectors=2245000
ProcoderTargetSectors=2254000
HCTargetSectors=2250000

I am not using HCTargetSectors=2.250.000, I am using HCTargetSectors=2250000 as it is proposed by you, written in the help file etc. Please find above the link in one of my previous posts including the ini file I am using. And the program ignored every value I have used so far (I have only checked values well under the size of a DVD-5 media, e.g. TargetSectors=500000). The question is what I am doing wrong and if it is possible at all in DVD-RB to use such a low TargetSectors parameter that is not ignored by the program.

Thank you very much for your answer.

[Groucho2004]

I am not using HCTargetSectors=2.250.000, I am using HCTargetSectors=2250000 as it is proposed by you, written in the help file etc. Please find above the link in one of my previous posts including the ini file I am using. And the program ignored every value I have used so far (I have only checked values well under the size of a DVD-5 media, e.g. TargetSectors=500000). The question is what I am doing wrong and if it is possible at all in DVD-RB to use such a low TargetSectors parameter that is not ignored by the program.

Thank you very much for your answer.
The INI you posted only contains "TargetSectors" which is wrong for DVD-RB. I'm not sure you understand Sharc's reply.

[mparade]

The INI you posted only contains "TargetSectors" which is wrong for DVD-RB. I'm not sure you understand Sharc's reply.

Anything I "do" either with TargetSectors or HCTargetSectors parameter the result is the same: the program sticks to 1998736 sectors. I think the program assume that my destination media is DVD-5 and this is the cause of the issue. But why if I am using a unique TargetSectors/HCTargetSectors parameter? I would like to use this parameter because I would like to get a certain file size with certain quality.

[Sharc]

.... I am using HCTargetSectors=2250000 as it is proposed by you, written in the help file etc. Please find above the link in one of my previous posts including the ini file I am using.

From your posted .ini file:
.....
HC_LOSSLESS=1
HC_VBR_Bias=20
TargetSectors=999999
........
This will definitely not work.

[mparade]

From your posted .ini file:

This will definitely not work.

Thanks for the info. Could you please detail a bit your answer?
I would need your opinion regarding my problem, if possible.
The last time I used DVD-RB was in 2005....All those parameters above except the TargetSectors are the program defaults.

[Sharc]

Thanks for the info. Could you please detail a bit your answer?
I would need your opinion regarding my problem, if possible.
The last time I used DVD-RB was in 2005....All those parameters above except the TargetSectors are the program defaults.
Do as follows:
1. Close DVD-Rebuilder
2. Open the file rebuilder.ini in a text editor
3. Find and delete the line "TargetSectors=...."
4. Insert this at the beginning (line 2), just below [Options]
CCETargetSectors=2245000
ProcoderTargetSectors=2254000
HCTargetSectors=22500005. Change the value(s) for the sizes as you need (Note: number of sectors, not bytes)
6. Save the modified rebuilder.ini file and close it.
7. Start DVD-Rebuilder

Post your rebuilder.ini file again if above should not help.

[soneca]

Thanks Sharc!

[mparade]

Do as follows:
1. Close DVD-Rebuilder
2. Open the file rebuilder.ini in a text editor
3. Find and delete the line "TargetSectors=...."
4. Insert this at the beginning (line 2), just below [Options]
CCETargetSectors=2245000
ProcoderTargetSectors=2254000
HCTargetSectors=22500005. Change the value(s) for the sizes as you need (Note: number of sectors, not bytes)
6. Save the modified rebuilder.ini file and close it.
7. Start DVD-Rebuilder

Post your rebuilder.ini file again if above should not help.

No success.

http://www.mammutmail.com/hu/mail/download/287181aecf87bd7c5b02c8ac4c04d067

Edit: The source of the problem was outside of DVD-RB, sorry everybody. Running DVD-RB as admin and everything is working as it should.

[Sharc]

No success.

http://www.mammutmail.com/hu/mail/download/287181aecf87bd7c5b02c8ac4c04d067

Edit: The source of the problem was outside of DVD-RB, sorry everybody. Running DVD-RB as admin and everything is working as it should.
Glad you got it right :)

[soneca]

Hi Sharc,
The command "REDIST_USE_FINAL_Q = 1" was created to improve the quality of the main VTS, in a normal DVD with the movie and the extras.
I do not remember... if I enable redistribution to all VTSs(series) this mode automatically cancels the command "REDIST_USE_FINAL_Q = 1", or even so there will be more predictions on longer VTS on a DVD with episodes?

[Sharc]

Hi Sharc,
The command "REDIST_USE_FINAL_Q = 1" was created to improve the quality of the main VTS, in a normal DVD with the movie and the extras.
I do not remember... if I enable redistribution to all VTSs(series) this mode automatically cancels the command "REDIST_USE_FINAL_Q = 1", or even so there will be more predictions on longer VTS on a DVD with episodes?
From Rebuilder.txt:
- Added a "hidden" setting called "REDIST_USE_FINAL_Q". If
set to 1 (REDIST_USE_FINAL_Q=1) in the "[Options]" area of
REBUILDER.INI, a set of prediction passes are run on the
main-movie VTS (largest) to determine a Final_Q value
that is used for REDISTRIBUTION rather than the standard
Base_Q. This will add a little time to the PREPARE phase
and some reports have been made of improved quality based upon subjective analysis.
It was found that for optimum redistribution, the redistribution pass should be run with the same CQ value (called "Final_Q") which would approximately yield the target file size with a 1-pass encode, rather than using the standard "Base-CQ".

[soneca]

Ok, but I want to know is if this command(REDIST_USE_FINAL_Q) is always active it will work even in a series dvd?
Can I leave always active or will mess up on a DVD with episodes of similar size?

[Sharc]

Ok, but I want to know is if this command(REDIST_USE_FINAL_Q) is always active it will work even in a series dvd?
Can I leave always active or will mess up on a DVD with episodes of similar size?
I can't tell you how it behaves with episodic discs. I never tried as far as I remember. You would have to run a test. But even when it is left ON it shouldn't do any harm, I imagine.

EDIT:
I just noticed when you select in the Mode menu "Enable Bitrate Redistribution" AND "Apply Redistribution to all VTSs (Series)", the REDIST_USE_FINAL_Q=1 is kept. I think this is ok.

[soneca]

Thanks Sharc!
I think only the jdobbs to solve this question for sure. :confused: :)

[manolito]

FWIW I updated my HC_RB wrapper to support the Bitrate Redistribution feature of the DVD-RB Pro version.

I also added an alternative version of the wrapper which makes use of HC's Auto Interlace feature. When using this version all -interlaced and -progressive command line parameters are ignored. HC then automatically switches between interlaced and progressive encoding depending on the source.

Download link in the older post:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1765737#post1765737


Cheers
manolito