Uncertain future for BDRB?

[datman]

Well I am curious where does the loss of Anydvd leave the use of BDRB. I guess we can always use it on older movies but the new it remains unclear if there will be any viable options.:(

Here's something interesting the first movie I had a temporary issue with was Goosebumps and I installed a demo of dvdfab and it told me the disc had Cinavia protection. I was able to install the latest version of anydvd and the disc processed normally in BDRB and played fine in my Oppo bd 105D.

Anyhow I am thankful for your work jdobds glad I'm able to use it and hope it will remain useful.

[jdobbs]

There are other alternatives. MAKEMKV and DVDFAB come to mind. You never know what will happen long term, but I don't think it's a big issue right now -- except of course for that fact that a lot of people bought lifetime licenses.

[HWK]

There are few sources which indicate anydvd may continue


http://www.myce.com/news/former-slysoft-employees-to-continue-anydvd-development-78706/ (http://www.myce.com/news/former-slysoft-employees-to-continue-anydvd-development-78706/)

http://www.myce.com/news/former-slysoft-forum-now-appearing-as-redfox-forum-with-new-logo-78713/

Even there forum is online and you can still use online database. Open discussion is taking place at forum.slysoft.com and name is changed to RedFox Forum

[jdobbs]

I personally don't put a lot of hope in those posts. The software is the property of Slysoft, and is probably under a S&D or court order. I'd guess that any attempt to use the source code by the employees is illegal and would be dealt with quickly. I guess you never know, though.

[Ch3vr0n]

Not according to james. slysoft inc, no longer exists. so there's nobody to come after them and by all current reports there is no S&D or anything like it. the anydvd assets currently lie with the developers & support staff. If there was some form of "agreement" the domain would have been taken over. Either way, don't think this topic is the best place to discuss the possible future of AnyDVD :). As jdobbs said, there's other rippers like DVDFab, rip with that and compress with bdrb. No big deal.



** edit ** and so it begins. Bye Bye Slysoft forums, hello RedFox Forums (https://forum.redfox.bz/)

[Seajunk]

They need to speak to an IP lawyer and stop yammering on public forums about their intentions until its clear who owns what. When a company closes there's a set procedure, even in Antigua, on what happens to the IP and assets. Employee's generally cant run away with it all, even if its currently in their possession.

Who's got the customer database at the moment and what protections do we have?

[Ch3vr0n]

Why don't you post that on the RedFox forums ;-) they'll likely respond faster there that here.

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[jdobbs]

Who's got the customer database at the moment and what protections do we have?Now that is a very good question.

[Ch3vr0n]

My guess is the same reliable trusty persons as before. My contact at redfox (going to be a while to get used to saying that lol), states that as we speak they've begun of moving the hardware servers.

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[jdobbs]

Bought a new movie this morning for testing... AnyDVD choked on it. This is the first new to fail (also the first new movie I bought) since they went tits-up.

For what it's worth -- it was a really great product for many years. I feel I easily got my money's worth just in the movies I could transfer to MKV for my Serviio server.

[Ch3vr0n]

See that's the thing jdobbs, if the disc you bought is a new release before the majority of the key servers got shut down, then there's no data for it in the OPD to decrypt it. That's the only reason anydvd will choke on it. As i've said, they've begun moving the key servers, etc, once that's completely done it will be back to business as usual. Provide a logfile, wait a little while, support gets added, done.

Though my contact at redfox stated that the full migration and site restoration will take a couple weeks due to the amount of stuff that has to be moved. Nothing unusual for a disc not to be supported immedately. We've gone without a beta build for weeks before.

patience is a virtue :-)

[musiclover]

Bought a new movie this morning for testing... AnyDVD choked on it. This is the first new to fail (also the first new movie I bought) since they went tits-up.

For what it's worth -- it was a really great product for many years. I feel I easily got my money's worth just in the movies I could transfer to MKV for my Serviio server.

And how did MAKEMKV handle the new movie?

[Video Dude]

patience is a virtue :-)

Wow that was fast! A new AnyDVD version has already been released.

Great news that old licenses can still be used, but I don't know if that would change in the future.

[jdobbs]

This is a new disc... just released today I believe.

[Edit] Yep, it was release today.

[jdobbs]

And how did MAKEMKV handle the new movie?No problem.

[jdobbs]

This is a new disc... just released today I believe.

[Edit] Yep, it was release today.Just as an aside, I tried it again after upgrading to 7.6.9.1 and it worked. I'm guessing this disc was probably released earlier in Europe (many discs are).

[Rich86]

Just as an aside, I tried it again after upgrading to 7.6.9.1 and it worked. I'm guessing this disc was probably released earlier in Europe (many discs are).

I expect 7.6.9.1 is now pointing to the new server site, so all the needed codes are once again available to the program? Let's hope the new location isn't easily attacked by the aacs-la lawyers.

[musiclover]

Quote:
And how did MAKEMKV handle the new movie?
No problem.

So MakeMKV did what AnyDVD couldn't? I'm impressed !!

[Ch3vr0n]

RedFox setup a whole new key server, the 7691 releases is designed to connect to that one and a support a few new discs. No more no less. It's an intermediate release as stated in the notes. When they get the infrastructure back up is going to be business as usual. The aacs-la isn't going to have it easy for starters the RedFox.bz whois details are privacy shielded, slysoft.com wasn't.

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[jdobbs]

RedFox setup a whole new key server, the 7691 releases is designed to connect to that one and a support a few new discs. No more no less. It's an intermediate release as stated in the notes. When they get the infrastructure back up is going to be business as usual. The aacs-la isn't going to have it easy for starters the RedFox.bz whois details are privacy shielded, slysoft.com wasn't.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 7 met TapatalkI suspect, though, that we'll all have to buy new licenses.

[Ch3vr0n]

That was stated some time earlier today that new licenses will be required yes. No surprise since it is a new company and software technically. The 1st iteration has reached 'end of life', so technically LTL's did too. However there's no news on when; how they'll implement this.

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[jdobbs]

Well... in reality it isn't new software, and the cost of development has already been incurred -- and I (along with many others) helped pay for it. All they will really be doing is keeping the database updated and making changes for new protections.

My fear is just how long they will last given the previous legal situation. But, if the price is reasonable I'll probably take the risk and get a license.

Has there ever been a clear explanation as to what exactly happened that caused SlySoft to go away?

[Ch3vr0n]

clear no, all we know is the statement that was posted on the main website. I know its not new software in the true sense of the word but lifetime in many cases means as long as the product/company exists :). Since the Slysoft company stopped, logically so did the LTL's. For the moment there's nothing to fear, they've engaged in project CYA: Cover Your Ass. Pretty sure they'll take all the steps they need. One of them is that the whois data on redfox.bz domain is shielded with privacyprotect.org so "they"'ve got nobody to directly target :)

Now as far as development goes, the team is pretty much intact except the grand boss giancarlo :) My guess is internal problems as well as james did make a statement in one of his replies about the team being owed money. A lot of it, its in the torrentfreak/myce articles and on the redfox forums.

[Sharc]

... Has there ever been a clear explanation as to what exactly happened that caused SlySoft to go away?

Good question. Interesting to read the general "consensus" about the cause. Well, there exist other business models, I think, like close the books, run away with the cash and leave the teammates standing in the rain :devil:

[soneca]

That was stated some time earlier today that new licenses will be required yes. No surprise since it is a new company and software technically. The 1st iteration has reached 'end of life', so technically LTL's did too. However there's no news on when; how they'll implement this.

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If there is a good discount for those who already had a lifetime license will stay only with DVDFab Blu-ray Copy doing a good job and have a lifetime license(until end!!!:scared:) it too.
The problem is that DVDFab Blu-ray Copy only removes the Blu-ray protections, but there is also the Passkey for DVD but I've never tested and do not know if it works as well as AnyDVD.

[Rich86]

If there is a good discount for those who already had a lifetime license will stay only with DVDFab Blu-ray Copy doing a good job and have a lifetime license(until end!!!:scared:) it too.
The problem is that DVDFab Blu-ray Copy only removes the Blu-ray protections, but there is also the Passkey for DVD but I've never tested and do not know if it works as well as AnyDVD.

DVDFab also has a DVD copy function option available.
Passkey seems to work fine - for both DVDs & BDs. It has a straight "rip to HD" option, then you could use BDRB from there.
There is a "Passkey Lite" version which would probably work fine with 99% of DVDs - and it's free.
http://www.dvdfab.cn/download.htm

[soneca]

But my license allows me to only use the function DVDFab Blu-ray Copy, are separate licenses.
Yes, I was referring to this version free, Passkey Lite.
I'll wait a little longer until the decision on the values of the AnyDVDHD RedFox, then decide.