Slysoft has closed down [Archive] - Page 2

manolito

2nd March 2016, 03:52

That's really good news...

But something about this whole thing smells funny. Maybe it wasn't the MPEG LA or the Antiguan authorities who shut down Slysoft Inc. Maybe someone just determined that it was time to quit and to run away with the money... :confused:

Cheers
manolito

Sharc

2nd March 2016, 06:59

Brazil2

2nd March 2016, 10:16

Maybe it wasn't the MPEG LA or the Antiguan authorities who shut down Slysoft Inc. Maybe someone just determined that it was time to quit and to run away with the money... :confused:
Or not:
https://forum.redfox.bz/download/

;)

chros

2nd March 2016, 11:42

Or not:
https://forum.redfox.bz/download/

;)
:) Probably they created a new company in a different country (as some of us already suggested) instead of SlySoft Inc. Clever guys! I like them!

Brazil2

2nd March 2016, 12:06

More info:
https://forum.redfox.bz/threads/anydvd-hd-7-6-9-1-released.68381/

datauser

4th March 2016, 13:18

This is excellent news. However I fail to understand the logic behind those who want to force a company to close down when the legitimate purpose is to allow the end user the right to back up his own property which most countries allow except silly UK legislature if I'm not mistaken? Those massive companies pulling the strings behind the MPAA are hypocrites when they mass produce products/gadgets blank CD/DVD to back up this said data which paradoxically they are trying to prevent us doing so! Massive contradiction in terms!:eek:

Ghitulescu

4th March 2016, 14:45

It's not a contradiction in terms.
The reasoning, the official one, is the following.

We do not want anyone to copy our products, we invested 5 millions and got 385 in the first month :).
But since there will be people to manage to copy one of our dearest work, we compensate for this by imposing a tax upon everything recordable and recording-able, irrespective of its use, since this is the main reason one would buy such tools and media.

:)

I suggested many times to people I know that either to implement the copy protections or to remove the levies from the recordables - either we cannot copy, therefore what we can copy is only our personal stuff, or we can copy and pay the piper. Those people said they are too little to even amend the law, which is decided at EU level carefully considering the "suggestions" coming from across the Atlantic. Some years ago I had a paper that listed the RIAA lobby contribution in order to increase the lapse time from 70 to 95 years, some 58-59000$. About 1 second of their cash flow; and thy got 15 years.

Getting money in particular for things one doesn't control is particularly tempting... :) right?

datauser

6th March 2016, 17:38

Whichever way you look at it, it is all money based hypocrisy of the highest order. They want you to buy their product blu ray/dvd, yes!, they sell you a medium to copy it to(legally for fairuse) or play it with as the tech industry is massively intertwined, then bring all this stupid cinavia virus like technology & further associated restrictions to block your fairuse right.

Result: put it out that it is a moral fight for you the consumer(which industry ever really cared for his or hers?) against piracy when in reality they have created the situation themselves via immense greed! They just want the bucks who doesn't?:rolleyes: I suppose I've just been watching too much Mr Robot lately!:)

Lucy

11th March 2016, 04:23

Er, DVDFab has been selling and updating their Bluray decryptor outside the US uninterrupted all along. US users can even access its online database without a problem, they only did the bare minimum to redirect US users to another web site. You should investigate further, they haven't shut down at all.

The UHD statement is most likely because they don't have the technical expertise to immediately crack AACS2, so they're going to have to wait until someone releases (or sells them) a crack.

Yes, DVDFab never shuts down. DVDFab lasts for long not only because its location, but also depending on its first-class technologies of its own.
It will update continuously even without other sellers. Time will tell the truth. BTW, it is holding a passkey discount on the official site: dvdfab.cn.

Darth_Emma

16th March 2016, 15:03

Woo hoo! I nearly cried when I found out my beloved ANYDVD would not work this morning. I want to put MY movies on MY iPad.

THANK YOU SO MUCH for getting me back up and running! Long live the RedFox!

Zetti

20th March 2016, 20:04

Redfox's new website now online but not able to process payments at the moment. https://redfox.bz/

Important information for SlySoft license owners!

SlySoft license keys for AnyDVD (HD) will only work up to version 7.6.9.1. The RedFox OPD (Online Protection Database) for this version will be available until Saturday, April 30, 2016, afterwards AnyDVD HD may no longer be able to decrypt discs.

SlySoft licenses of other products are not affected and will continue to work normally.

Sharc

20th March 2016, 20:30

nevcairiel

21st March 2016, 00:11

From what we know (or at least last I heard), the developers that founded redfox.bz didn't know either, since the "boss" just closed everyhting and disappeared. They decided to carry on.
If you believe that or assume ulterior motives is up to everyone individually, I guess.

dizzier

22nd March 2016, 19:36

You might find this interesting: https://wikileaks.org/sony/emails/?q=slysoft&mfrom=&mto=&title=&notitle=&date=&nofrom=&noto=&count=50&sort=0#searchresult

nevcairiel

22nd March 2016, 19:39

You might find this interesting: https://wikileaks.org/sony/emails/?q=slysoft&mfrom=&mto=&title=&notitle=&date=&nofrom=&noto=&count=50&sort=0#searchresult

This is from 2014, when they were forced to pay a fine.

Stereodude

22nd March 2016, 21:10

Has anyone seen a plausible or official statement of what has really happened to slysoft?
As long as this remains obscure i suspect a scenario like:
Close the books, let rumors about the reasons explode, flush the "life-time licenses", and start new business.
Not that I mind too much, but a clear communication would have been helpful to build trust.
I for one am very curious to see what the new pricing will be. Cutting off everyone with an old license on April 30th doesn't exactly engender a lot of good will IMHO, but I guess they need to get money coming in the doors.

zzzdmz

2nd May 2016, 18:15

apgood

3rd May 2016, 01:41

I thought I could find some solutions here but after reading your posts I am still quite lost. Perhaps I will just move on. I always assumed a lifetime license from Slysoft as it's literally meaning, "lifetime". But this is not the case. Now that Slysoft has become Redfox they abandoned us customers and asks us to buy the software again? I am not sure how you guys think but I for one, is quite disappointed.
Slysoft and redfox are two different companies run/owned by different people. Slysoft closed down. There no obligation by redfox to honour any slyfox license and I think it is unreasonable to expwct them to.

We are just lucky that some of the former Slyfox employees had access to the software source code, etc and decided it was worth the risk to try to start a new company.

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jpsdr

3rd May 2016, 08:36

I always assumed a lifetime license from Slysoft as it's literally meaning, "lifetime".
It is lifetime, in the meaning that your software will continue to work, and will never expire.
But it's logical that if a company close, you'll not be able to get new versions or update of the software. But the last version will continue to run on your PC forever, even after the company is closed.

Stereodude

3rd May 2016, 15:28

Slysoft and redfox are two different companies run/owned by different people. Slysoft closed down. There no obligation by redfox to honour any slyfox license and I think it is unreasonable to expwct them to.

We are just lucky that some of the former Slyfox employees had access to the software source code, etc and decided it was worth the risk to try to start a new company.
That's the RedFox story. I'm not saying it's false, but there's no way to corroborate any of what they're claiming. There is definitely a cloud of uncertainty and ambiguity around the whole thing. For all we know it could be an elaborate public ploy to dump their lifetime subs. Or, a US gov't run honeypot to get a database of people to investigate.

apgood

4th May 2016, 09:05

Since Redfox are going to offer lifetime licenses the first is unlikely and the 2nd highly improbable.

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foxyshadis

8th May 2016, 15:09

That makes me wonder who would actually trust that Redfox is going to be around long enough, after one shutdown, that lifetime licenses will make any sense at all.

Stereodude

8th May 2016, 15:41

That makes me wonder who would actually trust that Redfox is going to be around long enough, after one shutdown, that lifetime licenses will make any sense at all.
That's pretty much my thought on the matter.

DrinkLyeAndDie

9th May 2016, 20:56

That makes me wonder who would actually trust that Redfox is going to be around long enough, after one shutdown, that lifetime licenses will make any sense at all.

If people scan through the mountain of posts and information over in the forums when discussion of new licensing it was mention that there were no plans for lifetime licenses. There was pressure to include that as an option by users. So, one can ask who would do it and the answer is probably a heck of a lot more than you'd think.

RedFox 1

9th May 2016, 23:45

lych_necross

10th May 2016, 07:13

That makes me wonder who would actually trust that Redfox is going to be around long enough, after one shutdown, that lifetime licenses will make any sense at all.

Very true. It may not even matter as Redfox doesn't have payment system yet. I read over on their forums that the company is now decentralized and not located in Antigua anymore (it makes me wonder about the legality of the company's product and being able to sell it given the nature of AnyDVD).

jkauff

19th May 2016, 20:10

AnyDVD HD 8.0.1.0 is now available for download on the RedFox site. They've announced pricing, but the payment system is not fully active yet.

Don't install it on the same computer(s) that 7.6.9.5 is installed on, though, it'll overwrite it with the new Trial version.

kolak

20th May 2016, 12:48

This is from 2014, when they were forced to pay a fine.

They should choose even more exotic country which hates Hollywood studios, so than it will take them 15 years to take it down :)
Remove stupid line from law about rights to have a copy and than things will be more clear.

Sophocles

21st May 2016, 00:22

Cutting off everyone with an old license on April 30th doesn't exactly engender a lot of good will IMHO, but I guess they need to get money coming in the doors.

I agree to most of that, but they've chosen a rather underhanded way of disenfranchising previous licenses owner. If they needed money then they could've asked for it and many of us would've donated to them just as we did to DVD Rebuilder. But they chose instead to use a cover story about how some of the original members needed a job, and as a result decided to keep things going. If the current owners are new then those who established it are gone and AnyDVD's reputation with it. If they are in fact the original developers then they've reneged on the original promised licenses, and hoped to escape it by claiming to be newly formed. I have the latest update that still carries my license, and I will use it as long as it proves useful, but unless the "sly redfox" group levels with it's supporters, then I'm done.

jkauff

21st May 2016, 03:01

A little clarification here. For two months there will be discounts available for all license holders, including some pretty nice ones for recent purchasers.

The current version will continue to work with the most current local database. It's only access to the online database that's being cut off. If you're only ripping discs with the known DRM schemes as of the 7.6.9.5 release, you're fine. New schemes, however, will only be addressed by the new 8.0.1.0 version and its successors.

Developers can't "renege" on licenses. Those were sold by the owners of SlySoft, who took all the money with them when they packed up and ran. The developers worked for a paycheck.

Sophocles

21st May 2016, 14:42

Those were sold by the owners of SlySoft, who took all the money with them when they packed up and ran. The developers worked for a paycheck.

Unfortunately I have no reason to believe that RedFox is in fact under the control of new owners. I do however believe that they need a revenue stream. I believe that the demand for decrypters peaked about 8 years ago and has since fallen considerably. That can be attested to by the declining traffic flow at forums such as doom9, MYCE/CDFreaks, and Afterdawn. So all that was left was for SlyRedFox to retap its previous clientele. I understand why that might be important, but they've handled it badly. And as for still being able to use release 7.6.9.5, that's true as long as a user doesn't mind nagware. I've unchecked "Automatically check for new AnyDVD version, but it still checks regularly throughout the day.

http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq30/hgaskins/RedFox2.jpg (http://s430.photobucket.com/user/hgaskins/media/RedFox2.jpg.html)

jkauff

21st May 2016, 15:27

Just curious, why do you keep AnyDVD HD running all day? I only start it up when I need it, and I've never seen an update check.

Sophocles

21st May 2016, 19:52

Actually I don't keep AnyDVD running all day, but I do still have uses for it such as ripping, and when I finish I often forget to close it. That being said, it shouldn't even be a concern?

plonk420

22nd May 2016, 04:40

anyone want to try to figure out if the files are user-specific?

e.g. my dt1 for Deadpool (US) (semi obfuscated) is xxxxxxxxxx39.dt1
my MD5 is xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx862d27ea711a181c

Mark_Venture

23rd May 2016, 12:40

.....but unless the "sly redfox" group levels with it's supporters, then I'm done.
I'm curious. Do you mind sharing what you would use as an alternative or replacement for AnyDVD?

I got a free license during the DVDfab Passkey give away back in the fall, but after reading the posts in their forums, I am not as comfortable (confident) with it as I was AnyDVDHD. I guess I'm having troubles deciding if Passkey is "good enough" or if a new license for AnyDvd is worth it.

Mark_Venture

4th September 2016, 21:25

I'm curious. Do you mind sharing what you would use as an alternative or replacement for AnyDVD?

I got a free license during the DVDfab Passkey give away back in the fall, but after reading the posts in their forums, I am not as comfortable (confident) with it as I was AnyDVDHD. I guess I'm having troubles deciding if Passkey is "good enough" or if a new license for AnyDvd is worth it.

And with the introduction of Passkey V9... Dvdfab now says those who received the free Passkey LIFETIME license from their give-aways have to BUY version 9 and up... Apparently the Free LIFETIME license they gave away were not "lifetime" or at least not the same as paid for LIfetime licenses! (even though the give aways, nor the emails with the license files back then, said anything but "Free Passkey Lifetime license"

Now I need to decide... re-up with Dvdfab for Passkey 9, or go back to AnyDVDHD...

Any suggestions?

Sparktank

4th September 2016, 22:08

The DVDFab lifetime giveaway key is for version 8 only.

You can uninstall version 9 and re-install 8 but decryption for newer discs with newer encryptions are likely to be unsupported.

This post on their forum explains it well:
http://forum.dvdfab.cn/showthread.php?t=29785&p=189501

I'm subcibed to newsletters and events that they have, so I'll wait around the holidays for a sale and pick something if I need to.
Even if it's just a yearly subscription until the lifetime for version 9 becomes affordable.

The prices for DVDfab seem cheaper than AnyDVD.

Mark_Venture

4th September 2016, 22:54

Their give away emails and web site didn't say as such.

And you are right that ver 8 can be installed and use. They did say it won't be updated so you won't be able to decrypt newer discs.

They are running 30% off now (at least per the email they sent now has a coupon code for it). So it will be cheaper that Anydvd today.

Mark_Venture

7th September 2016, 05:14

....I'm subcibed to newsletters and events that they have, so I'll wait around the holidays for a sale and pick something if I need to.
Even if it's just a yearly subscription until the lifetime for version 9 becomes affordable.

The prices for DVDfab seem cheaper than AnyDVD.
DVDFab's 50% Passkey license for AnyDVD customers still works. Lifetime license is not bad when using that offer. (see the links at the very bottom of their page... and they don't validate anydvd ownership in anyway)