Display Discussion

[Arm3nian]

Almost everything on this forum is aimed at getting the best quality. Speaking about visuals, if your display is crap, no matter what kind of processing you do, the image going to your eyes is going to be crap.

Now that 4k panels have increased in quantity, quality, and decreased in price, display options have opened up. There are many existing and upcoming displays from Dell, ASUS, NEC, Viewsonic, LG, Acer, Samsung, Eizo and others. I don't have the room for a projector or a giant tv, so a 4k monitor would be the best choice. I'm sure others can relate. I have no doubt 4k content will be available soon, and renderers like madVR offer upscaling.

So, what do you look for in a display? IPS, VA, OLED? 10bit panel? 14bit internal LUT? What do you currently use and what do you plan to purchase in the future?

[huhn]

i brought a TX-55CXW704 (even through i will never see it).

i avoid dimming zones the blooming is unacceptable and the image is kind of incorrect thanks to it.
so the display should be MVA/VA or better OLED.

internal calibration possibilities doesn't matter to me i will use native gamut and a 3D LUT.

HDR is still unclear so this doesn't matter for the TV/display i would buy now.

i only plan on using it for 2 years. the old TV will be used a PC monitor after that.

UHD way below 40 zoll doesn't make a lot of sense to me even as a PC monitor.

a TV has to be flat and support 4:4:4 and of cause i don't accept any deadpixels at all.

[Arm3nian]

Yeah 4k looks pretty much the same as 1440p at 27 inches. But they cost about the same now and are better for upscaling 1080 sources.

My P2715q had a hexagonal pattern (http://i.imgur.com/ZPeWcwA.jpg) of red pixels that got worse by the day. Returned it, and don't really want another one.

There is a lack of anything other than IPS displays for monitors, and a lack of quality TVs in smaller sizes. I was looking at the PB279Q (https://www.asus.com/us/Monitors/PB279Q/) but it has 10bit internal processing instead of 14 bit like the one from NEC (http://www.necdisplay.com/p/desktop-monitors/ea275uhd-bk) and Viewsonic (http://www.viewsonic.com/us/vp2780-4k.html). The only thing I have after returning my 4k display is a 10 year old samsung tn with a cracked screen... so I need to choose something. Any recommendations?

[huhn]

Sony KDL-32W700C

what's the point of more pixel with a crappy IPS/TN panel?

[Arm3nian]

1080 looks horrible when you're sitting a foot away. Especially at 32 inches.

IPS seems to be preferred for the professional displays. I know it's not great for movies since black doesn't really exist. But for general use, i.e productivity and video, I think a 4k monitor would be the correct choice. Question is which one.

internal calibration possibilities doesn't matter to me i will use native gamut and a 3D LUT.

What did you mean by this? Are you saying higher bit internal processing doesn't matter? I'll probably get the PB279q if so. Other displays have 14 or 16 bit processing vs the 10 so it can't be useless.

[huhn]

1080 looks horrible when you're sitting a foot away. Especially at 32 inches.

IPS seems to be preferred for the professional displays. I know it's not great for movies since black doesn't really exist. But for general use, i.e productivity and video, I think a 4k monitor would be the correct choice. Question is which one.
CR isn't really need for using photoshop. upscaling doesn't really make the image better. it's not like the image now looks like true UHD...

more pixel don't add a lot. an IPS monitor doesn't even have zones what to gain from such a screen?

if you want to play PC games at UHD than these pixel are very useful thank to the nature of PC games but else...
What did you mean by this? Are you saying higher bit internal processing doesn't matter? I'll probably get the PB279q if so. Other displays have 14 or 16 bit processing vs the 10 so it can't be useless.

i don't really care if a TV has a proper CMS or not i take care of this issue with a 3d lut.when using madVR with a 3D LUT a high bit deep LUT in the TV is not needed in native gamut. but monitors usually don't have this option.

internal LUT or internal processing are not really the same.

[Arm3nian]

K so with a 10 bit input signal and a 3d LUT an internal high bit LUT doesn't do much? That's easy to do with madVR.

What about non madVR when you'll be getting an 8 bit input signal. Would you see any difference on a 14bit monitor internal LUT vs a 10bit?

The 1440p cost as much or more than the 4k for some reason so I don't see much reason in going for 1440p anymore. The NEC one keeps getting delayed and they don't respond to emails. I want the ASUS but for some reason it has 10bit internal LUT. Why do others have 14? Marketing crap?

[Doom9]

If you're looking at 4K, avoid those dual tile displays at all cost. I mean it.. DO NOT TOUCH those.

[Arm3nian]

As far as I know, only the early 4K displays like the PQ321Q used dual tiles. The new ones are single tile.

Anyway, I ordered the VP2780-4K from Viewsonic today. It looks pretty good from reviews. It also supposedly has a 14-bit 3D LUT, which is a feature only the more expensive displays from other manufacturers have. The 4k NEC is also available if anyone is interested.