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luquinhas0021
18th July 2015, 18:39
What about a category designed for a users meet each other, comment world facts, comment songs and whatever untechnical questions?!

vivan
18th July 2015, 18:47
Use facebook for that.

luquinhas0021
18th July 2015, 18:53
I don't remember I spoken about kill other categories, Vivan. But is trash what I've proposed? I guess no.

Groucho2004
18th July 2015, 18:59
I don't remember I spoken about kill other categories, Vivan. But is trash what I've proposed? I guess no.
Bloody hell. This forum is about video conversion and similar topics. You clearly are still unable to read and understand the rules. As for this, yet another inane thread I recommend reading rule #15.

luquinhas0021
18th July 2015, 19:03
Really, I didn't read all rules, but what about a rule like that: "Not to be unpolite"? Or, if already have it, i don't know why you are here

luquinhas0021
18th July 2015, 19:19
Lets go, Groucho:
Rule #15: Political discussion not directly related to DVD backup
issues are prohibited, as is any discussion on religion and
religious matters.
Do you know what is BACKUP, dude? If the forum post must be only about dvd backup and it issues, why are here questions about upscaling, edge detection, scene change detection, image editing,...? If the rule 15 is already "disrespected", why can't I propose some category?
You are stupid

videoh
18th July 2015, 19:41
Backup does not mean strictly copy the disk one-to-one. Making a backup may include resizing and other processing. It does not include "world facts" or other unrelated topics. As vivan pointed out, you have ample other forums and sites for general discussion.

Finally, calling people stupid reflects poorly on you. Don't you care about your reputation?

luquinhas0021
18th July 2015, 19:47
I finish this post.
I'm sorry, Vivian, because I'm unpolite with you.
What about Groucho? Well, he is unpolite

P.S.: The unique mean of "backup" I knew was "copy"

videoh
18th July 2015, 19:52
Thank you for your gracious reply.

I backup my passwords file to a piece of printed paper that I keep in a safe. That is not strictly speaking an exact copy (I might use a smaller font to save space, for example, analogous to reduction of bitrate for a video backup).

I think it's always a good idea to understand the culture of a forum and try to understand why it is the way it is (and Doom9 has a long and checkered history) before proposing radical changes. Nevertheless, tempered by that, your outside-the-box thinking is valuable and welcomed, so I would not want to discourage you in that regard.

And try to be tolerant and understanding of other users that may have a more direct/gruff approach. As they say, different strokes for different folks. If someone is really being insulting, it will be obvious and their reputation will suffer, without you having to respond in kind, or even respond at all. Balthazar Gracian long ago counseled to ignore such provocations, in order to avoid elevating your protagonist to your level, or stooping to his.

I'm not sure your user description "The Narcizist" helps you very much. What is that all about?

All the best, good luck for your projects, and thank you for your contributions to the forum. I follow your threads as they always raise interesting lines of thought and unusual perspectives.

luquinhas0021
18th July 2015, 20:21
videoh, "The narcizist" is mention to I ever and ever search for more than average solutions. I say, honestly, for sure this lead wasn't to misstreat other forum members

feisty2
18th July 2015, 20:46
Something probably practical about "universal solution", neural network, just get problems bothering you into a specific network (a group of functions connected to each other) and train it (get the working weights between functions) and you get a program capable of solving everything you trained before (just like human brain), but it requires extraordinary ability about math and related stuff, things you're not so good at I guess. But you're 20, maybe you've got enough math from college, so good luck with that

luquinhas0021
18th July 2015, 20:56
I think neural network is a little unavailabe for finding "universal solution", cause it's so extraordinary I train the neurons for optimum resizing or deconvolution of all images that exists. Imagine pass more than millions of frames trough the neural network! wow lol And is computattionaly expensive. If i am wrong, correct me

feisty2
18th July 2015, 21:00
Okay, then try to be okay with currently available resizers

luquinhas0021
18th July 2015, 21:16
I like so much of one called Alien Skin Blow Up 3, it's a Photoshop plugin. If the noise recognition doesn't be kinda nonsense, it will be so, so good. Would be universal? Maybe! Blow Up 3 uses a vectorization approach in order to resizing a image. The it main developer said me it makes a gradient image evaluation for vectorizing. A generalizated way of Canny Edge Detector, maybe; altough he said Blow Up doesn't detect edges first.
Genuine Fractals is good too, but produces a washed texture
I proposed to Blow Up a better way of recognize noise, but it main developer said he's not interested in change it, for while. The OnOne, developer of Genuine Fractals, knows that washed texture problem since long time, but doesn't corrected it.
About I try to be ok with current resizers: I don't think every is bad.
And... Why not I develop my own resizer? I'm doing this!

Groucho2004
18th July 2015, 21:21
what about a rule like that: "Not to be unpolite"?

feisty2 is a kind of Doom9's user I don't ask for, because for he, everithing is impossible, everything is try to be perfect.
Festy2, have you already heard speak in IMPROVEMENT? Point Resize is a lossless algorithm, so let's improve it.
Next time, do not talk trash.
So, you can dish it out but you can't take it?

feisty2
18th July 2015, 21:22
And you can get similar results like those commercial $oftware$ with warpsharp on the upscaled image

luquinhas0021
18th July 2015, 21:36
As long as the upscaled image doesn't have aliasing, halo/ring neither edge's discontinuities, yes, I can. This is just possible if I combine a good algorithm, such Bicubic, with a antialiasing.

feisty2
18th July 2015, 21:38
eedi / nnedi are free of aliasings and ringings

luquinhas0021
18th July 2015, 21:41
Then upscale the "castle" image with optimum configuration of nnedi3. You will se some aliasing in top and some ringing on windows. Or the low resolution image had aliasing and ringing. I didn't see that

feisty2
18th July 2015, 21:51
EDI algorithm will not produce aliasings and ringings, it's free of them theoretically, if you see ringing kind of stuff, they are just from the source image.

luquinhas0021
18th July 2015, 21:55
Teorethically, EDI algorithms produces some kind of artifacts? If produces, what types?

luquinhas0021
18th July 2015, 22:18
I didn't begin. Can I change the thread title

luquinhas0021
18th July 2015, 22:24
Just look the first post of Feisty2. I didn't can let he talking with himself

foxyshadis
18th July 2015, 23:20
Reading luquinhas threads always makes me think of a caffeinated squirrel, the topics bounce around so quickly and strangely.

If anyone wants to make threads in general just to shoot the breeze, I won't close them, though I can't speak for all mods. A lot of people just aren't that interested in it here. In the past they've sometimes evolved into discussions of pirated stuff, so they've been shut down, or just dwindled away because this forum self-selects for people with a maniacal focus on the engineering (video, development, and related topics).

Chetwood
19th July 2015, 07:04
Use facebook for that.

Word!