View Full Version : TSmuxer/MultiAVCHD making files "jump"
DigitalfreakNYC
23rd June 2015, 18:03
I seem to have a problem with all of my recorded HD files created with my Hauppauge.
I record them using the 1212 and edit using VideoReDo.
Then I use MultiAVCHD to author a disc. All files that are authored come out with a jump, both at the beginning and end of the file, almost as if the files themselves have lost a few frames.
Now, the odd thing is that the files are still ok. If I wanted to re-encode all of them, i could and the problem would disappear so it's not as if something has been re-encoded or cut. It's a playback issue. However, I'd rather figure out what TSmuxer (by way of Multiavchd) is doing to the files. For some reason, whenever it gets a hold of them to change from ts to M2TS (or even just from .ts to .ts), they come out with this problem. Any suggestions?
DigitalfreakNYC
23rd June 2015, 18:03
Here's the mediainfo for both files.
This is the original file BEFORE I sent it through tsmuxer (http://www.videohelp.com/software/tsMuxeR):
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Kind of stream : General
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Video_Format_WithHint_List : AVC
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Audio_Format_List : AC-3
Audio_Format_WithHint_List : AC-3
Audio codecs : AC3
Audio_Language_List : English
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Folder name : D:\
File name : Ellen Day 2 - 3.17.15
File extension : ts
Format : MPEG-TS
Format : MPEG-TS
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Commercial name : MPEG-TS
Internet media type : video/MP2T
Codec : MPEG-TS
Codec : MPEG-TS
Codec/Extensions usually used : ts m2t m2s m2ts m4t m4s ts tp trp
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File size : 2.52 GiB
File size : 3 GiB
File size : 2.5 GiB
File size : 2.52 GiB
File size : 2.515 GiB
Duration : 1513214.428333
Duration : 25mn 13s
Duration : 25mn 13s 214ms
Duration : 25mn 13s
Duration : 00:25:13.214
Duration : 00:25:13;04
Duration : 00:25:13.214 (00:25:13;04)
Overall bit rate mode : VBR
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
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Frame rate : 29.970
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Delay : 10.156667
Delay : 10ms
Delay : 10ms
Delay : 10ms
Delay : 00:00:00.010
Stream size : 134354009
Stream size : 128 MiB (5%)
Stream size : 128 MiB
Stream size : 128 MiB
Stream size : 128 MiB
Stream size : 128.1 MiB
Stream size : 128 MiB (5%)
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File creation date : UTC 2015-03-22 01:27:47.279
File creation date (local) : 2015-03-21 21:27:47.279
File last modification date : UTC 2015-03-22 01:28:33.681
File last modification date (local) : 2015-03-21 21:28:33.681
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Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
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Format settings, CABAC : Yes
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Codec : AVC
Codec : AVC
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Codec/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Codec/Url : http://developers.videolan.org/x264.html
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Scan order : Top Field First
Interlacement : TFF
Interlacement : Top Field First
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Delay : 200ms
Delay : 200ms
Delay : 200ms
Delay : 00:00:00.200
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Delay, origin : Container
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colour_description_present : Yes
Color primaries : BT.709
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Delay : 200.000
Delay : 200ms
Delay : 200ms
Delay : 200ms
Delay : 00:00:00.200
Delay, origin : Container
Delay, origin : Container
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Video0 delay : 00:00:00.000
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Stream size : 69.3 MiB
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Language : English
Language : English
Language : en
Language : eng
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DigitalfreakNYC
23rd June 2015, 18:04
And then here's the file AFTER i send it through...
General
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Count of stream of this kind : 1
Kind of stream : General
Kind of stream : General
Stream identifier : 0
Inform : MPEG-TS: 2.51 GiB, 25mn 13s
ID : 1
ID : 1 (0x1)
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Video_Format_WithHint_List : AVC
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Audio_Format_List : AC-3
Audio_Format_WithHint_List : AC-3
Audio codecs : AC3
Audio_Language_List : English
Complete name : D:\
Folder name : D:\
File name : Ellen Day 2 - 3.17.15_new
File extension : ts
Format : MPEG-TS
Format : MPEG-TS
Format/Extensions usually used : ts m2t m2s m2ts m4t m4s ts tp trp
Commercial name : MPEG-TS
Internet media type : video/MP2T
Codec : MPEG-TS
Codec : MPEG-TS
Codec/Extensions usually used : ts m2t m2s m2ts m4t m4s ts tp trp
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File size : 2.51 GiB
File size : 3 GiB
File size : 2.5 GiB
File size : 2.51 GiB
File size : 2.515 GiB
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Duration : 25mn 13s
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Duration : 25mn 13s
Duration : 00:25:13.188
Duration : 00:25:13;01
Duration : 00:25:13.188 (00:25:13;01)
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Stream size : 134445088
Stream size : 128 MiB (5%)
Stream size : 128 MiB
Stream size : 128 MiB
Stream size : 128 MiB
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Stream size : 128 MiB (5%)
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File creation date : UTC 2015-06-23 05:00:43.230
File creation date (local) : 2015-06-23 01:00:43.230
File last modification date : UTC 2015-06-23 05:01:04.169
File last modification date (local) : 2015-06-23 01:01:04.169
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Ghitulescu
24th June 2015, 10:47
Probably the useless GOPs (leftovers) have been discarded. The new file is shorter in terms of playback.
DigitalfreakNYC
26th June 2015, 20:38
Probably the useless GOPs (leftovers) have been discarded. The new file is shorter in terms of playback.
No. It's a jump about 2-3 seconds into the file. For some reason, muxers are making that jump because of something in the header but VRD is at a loss as to what it is. It makes most players cut 3 frames out towards the first edit every single time. However, those frames are not gone because when I play the file back with Splash, it still plays back properly.
Emulgator
29th June 2015, 19:38
What kind of disc ? Blu-ray ? AVCHD on DVD-9 ?
Which player ?
If Blu-ray disc in a Blu-ray player:
What if you play around with tsmuxeR's parameter start-time ?
--start-time Timestamp of the first video frame. May be defined as 45Khz clock ticks (just a integer number) or as time in format hh:mm:ss.zzz.
An usual value for --start-time in a Blu-ray mux is 00:00:11.65066666 or 524280 (dec) or 00 07 FF F8 (hex).
DigitalfreakNYC
29th June 2015, 19:59
What kind of disc ? Blu-ray ? AVCHD on DVD-9 ?
Which player ?
If Blu-ray disc in a Blu-ray player:
What if you play around with tsmuxeR's parameter start-time ?
--start-time Timestamp of the first video frame. May be defined as 45Khz clock ticks (just a integer number) or as time in format hh:mm:ss.zzz.
An usual value for --start-time in a Blu-ray mux is 00:00:11.65066666 or 524280 (dec) or 00 07 FF F8 (hex).
It is a blu-ray.
It works fine with Splash but VLC and any actual player shows a drop of 3 frames.
How do you mess with the start-time?
Emulgator
2nd July 2015, 22:07
tsMuxeR GUI offers this parameter to be set on 3rd Tab.
Look for Start mux time / 45kHz clock.
multiAVCHD: can't tell anymore, not used for too long...
Used to work out of the box.
Still, the cutting with VideoReDo may leave unplayable parts, depending on playback capabilities
of device/software and/or missing transcoding abilities of the encoder involved...
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