Question: Remux 3D BD to MKV

[zeropc]

i haven't done this yet and i wanted to clarify before i start, since i can't view 3d movies yet.

so here is my idea on how to make a remux...

1. demux video stream 1 to .h264 and stream 2 to .mvc
2. demux audio, subtitle and chapter
3. import files in mkvtoolnix and set video stream 1 to left and right side in
4. mux to new .mkv

done

is that about right?

[mata7]

or just use makemkv

[Sparktank]

I think, as far as MVC goes, MakeMKV is the only thing that can do it.

By default, the options untick the MVC stream, so you have double-check all your checked boxes before remuxing.
Or set Advanced options and then change default selection to include MVC (and lossless audio; otherwise, lossy selected only).

[Sharc]

If you don't know your 3D playback infrastructure yet it is probably safest to remux to a standard format which is either 3D Blu-ray or side-by-side (SBS).
- BD-Rebuilder supports both methods
- BD3D2MK3D supports SBS

With MakeMKV 3D .mkv files you may run into playback issues as its 3D muxing format seems to be proprietary. It works well with Stereoscopic Player on PC here, but on my TV it plays 2D only.

[nevcairiel]

Converting to SBS is not a "remux" though, thats a full blown re-encode. Decode the image for both eyes and place it next to each other, encode as "normal" H.264 again.
I haven't analyzed in-depth how MakeMKV muxes MVC, but from a cursory look it just looked like it split both eyes into individual video streams (similar to how it exists on 3D Blu-ray already), which wouldn't be that hard to support for any player that wanted to.

On a PC the real problem is having a MVC capable decoder, imho. Stereoscopic Player seems to work with the CoreCodec codec, but thats not really available for purchase for end-users.

[Sharc]

Converting to SBS is not a "remux" though, thats a full blown re-encode. Decode the image for both eyes and place it next to each other, encode as "normal" H.264 again.
I haven't analyzed in-depth how MakeMKV muxes MVC, but from a cursory look it just looked like it split both eyes into individual video streams (similar to how it exists on 3D Blu-ray already), which wouldn't be that hard to support for any player that wanted to.

On a PC the real problem is having a MVC capable decoder, imho. Stereoscopic Player seems to work with the CoreCodec codec, but thats not really available for purchase for end-users.

AFAIK the Blu-ray standard defines 2 muxing formats:
- MVC (*.ssif)
- interleaved (*.m2ts)
Any Blu-ray player must support both types.
I would have expected that MakeMKV is compatible with the interleaved format of Blu-ray, but this seems not to be the case ....
Maybe it's just the container rather than the muxing principle which is the culprit.

Edit:
Remuxing the MakeMKV 3D file with tsMuxeR to *.m2ts seems to produce a compliant interleaved *.m2ts which plays 3D on my TV.

[nevcairiel]

I have never seen an actual consumer 3D Blu-ray that didn't use MVC/SSIF. Not that I have looked at hundreds or anything close to that, but still.