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jriker1
24th February 2015, 16:06
Not sure if something happened to doom9. I see stats for an area with thousands of threads but when I go into that area there is just one or two threads.

Anyway, I have some problematic DVD's and the only way I have found to make them work where the audio and video sync, is to use MakeMKV to pull out the individual movies from the DVD, and then use Handbrake to convert it to MP4. Then I am able to do some video editing work in Premiere Pro I need to do. If I pull the VOB's into Premiere directly they go out of sync. Problem is even if you don't tell it to deinterlace you end up with a deinterlaced MP4. Not sure if MP4 supports interlaced but can someone suggest how I can take the MKV files and convert those to say AVI as interlaced lossless or uncompressed intermediate footage?

Thanks.

JR

ndjamena
24th February 2015, 16:16
VirtualDub

Exact instructions would be pointlessly long.

Ghitulescu
24th February 2015, 17:08
You get so few replies for the reason that you don't tell us what's the purpose.

Yes, I know to read, and I see you want to convert to MP4, but this is not the goal, only the means for your goal, which is probably to play them on something else than a DVD player, reduce storage space etc etc.

Groucho2004
24th February 2015, 17:12
Not sure if something happened to doom9. I see stats for an area with thousands of threads but when I go into that area there is just one or two threads.
Have a look at your forum settings, particularly "Default Thread Age Cut Off".

jriker1
24th February 2015, 23:00
Bingo thanks Groucho.

Ghitulescu, sorry I didn't provide more, I thought I provided enough to get where I wanted to get. Used to posting full details and either being told I am to verbose, or the thread going in another direction.

The final format is going to be a media file, however am trying to get the DVD into Premiere Pro so I can run NeatVideo on it to clean it up. Want to do everything lossless. So:

1. Convert DVD individual videos per IFO information to individual interlaced lossless or uncompressed files that Premiere can open.

2. Trim some of the start and end of the videos in Premiere and run NeatVideo against it. Output will be an uncompressed AVI file.

3. Microsoft Expression Encoder to make a WMV out of it.

OK, don't need any lessons on why lossless or uncompressed. I have 18TB of available space so no reason not to keep the file as clean as possible until the end.

Don't also need a lesson on WMV and it's a crap format. It is the best format for my home setup.

Appreciate any input on how to get a file, be it AVI or something else, that maintains the source interlacing and will open in Premiere.

If there are any best practices for converting a DVD to my final format understanding I want to clean the noise with NeatVideo, glad to hear suggestions.

Thanks.

JR

Ghitulescu
25th February 2015, 10:41
Actually there is a reason to ask that.

The (final) format should match (read "designed for") the player. There are players that are much better than any doctored source, but of course there are also better software encoded files than some players can do.

What you have is an NTSC source that may be present in two forms on a DVD that does not allow for a 24 or 24/1.001 fps - hard telecined and soft telecined. If you can't recognize them, you should probably leave the deinterlacing to the device, it will play it probably good enough.

The only problems in deinterlacing appear in movies like animes that have a weird but technically-wise perfectly explainable interlacing. Otherwise, most movies are very simple to deinterlace and edit.


PS: to simplify the things I used deinterlace also with the meaning of IVTC (which is also a deinterlacing, but restores the original fps, while deinterlacing as used here doesn't, keeping it as the source had).

jriker1
26th February 2015, 14:53
Thanks for the info. Wrote another thread before I knew this one would talk about deinterlacing beyond the basic conversion. I know on my computer I see the interlacing and not sure the Xbox on a plasma screen will deal with it right or not. I have a thread with hopefully a lot of information at http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=171843. Not sure if anyone can help with this. Think it's telecine material but only found one tool, Handbrake, that deals with it. Talked about it there.

JR