Why wont my Xbox One play a burned Bluray?

[HeatM1ser]

I decrypted it with AnyDVD, then burned the files with Nero. Its my first time trying to make a copy of one of my Bluray movies. Is there better software for doing this, and what could I have done wrong?

The Xbox recognizes the Bluray disc because I see the screen show the Bluray word...but it doesnt read the disc...but my computer plays the movie

[Ghitulescu]

Your computer will play a CDR with a RealMedia file onto it, but your standalone won't play it :)

[HWK]

I decrypted it with AnyDVD, then burned the files with Nero. Its my first time trying to make a copy of one of my Bluray movies. Is there better software for doing this, and what could I have done wrong?

The Xbox recognizes the Bluray disc because I see the screen show the Bluray word...but it doesnt read the disc...but my computer plays the movie

Microsoft intentionally disable playback of burned disc in Xbox one

[LoRd_MuldeR]

Your computer will play a CDR with a RealMedia file onto it, but your standalone won't play it :)

To elaborate on this: Burning a bunch of video files on a BD-R media, simply results in a BD-R "data" disc which is containing (video) files, but not a standard-compliant BD-Video.

So this requires some kind of "media player" app (like VLC and Co), which is capable of playing video files from a "data" BD-R and which supports the video, audio and container format of your files.

I have no idea whether the Xbox One has a built-in "media player" app. And, if so, what video, audio and container format it supports :confused:

BTW: If you want to create a standard-compliant BD-Video, which would play on every "standalone" BD-player, then you need to use some kind BluRay "authoring" software.

(x264 can create standard-compliant video streams for BD-Video, but it is not a fully-fledged BD "authoring" software)

[HeatM1ser]

BTW: If you want to create a standard-compliant BD-Video, which would play on every "standalone" BD-player, then you need to use some kind BluRay "authoring" software.

(x264 can create standard-compliant video streams for BD-Video, but it is not a fully-fledged BD "authoring" software)

What is a good software program for decrypting and/or burning a Bluray to a BD-R that will play in most(if not all) Bluray players? Most of the information I have found seems to be several years old. Are blurays just that difficult to crack, or is it that they are not much better than DVD quality...or what? If someone could point me to a current thread or resource that I could learn from, I'd appreciate it greatly. I just got a 65 inch TV and an Xbox One with the hopes of watching blurays...are the graphics that much better than DVDs? Anyway...any helpful links that I could learn from would be great.

As always, thank you for your help everyone! :thanks:

[Asmodian]

Bluray is much better quality than DVD. DVDs are not very good quality encodes and they are low resolution.

The Xbox One can play media files from a USB drive (http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/system/media-player-faq) but not a burned optical disc.

I suggest creating MKVs with RipBot264, BDtoAVCHD, Hybrid, MeGUI (http://forum.doom9.org/forumdisplay.php?f=78), or similar.

[HeatM1ser]

Bluray is much better quality than DVD. DVDs are not very good quality encodes and they are low resolution.

The Xbox One can play media files from a USB drive (http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/system/media-player-faq) but not a burned optical disc.

I suggest creating MKVs with RipBot264, BDtoAVCHD, Hybrid, MeGUI (http://forum.doom9.org/forumdisplay.php?f=78), or similar.

Thank you for pointing me in the right direction!!!

[HeatM1ser]

By the way, will another Bluray player play burned blurays that the Xbox wouldnt?

I may be buying a Sony surround sound system with a Bluray player, or a Vizio 5.1 sound bar and satellite speaker setup without a bluray player.....so if a Sony bluray player will play burned bluray movies, I;d shell out the extra money to get the included blueray player

Also, what should the read/ write speeds be on a flash drive to stream a bluray movie without problems?

[Asmodian]

Also, what should the read/ write speeds be on a flash drive to stream a bluray movie without problems?

A compressed rip of a bluray or a simple copy of a bluray?

You needs ~65 Mbps for a copy of a bluray but much less for a compressed rip, how much less depends on how you do the rip.

[HeatM1ser]

A compressed rip of a bluray or a simple copy of a bluray?

You needs ~65 Mbps for a copy of a bluray but much less for a compressed rip, how much less depends on how you do the rip.

What if I wanted to stream an uncompressed bluray in mkv format?

I bought THIS 3.0 flash drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820301044) and wasnt sure if it was fast enough

Edit: I guess I'll need at least a 64GB flash drive too(for best mkv quality)...right?

[Asmodian]

The 65 Mbps was for the "as was on the disk" video and should be enough to stream the unmodified bluray video (muxed to mkv or not), that one says 90 Mbps read so it should be fine. Uncompressed video would need a lot more but I understand you meant not re-compressed. ;)

Blurays can hold ~50 GB but often the movie is closer to 25 GB so a 32 GB drive can be enough for one movie, a larger one would be nice.

[foxyshadis]

The reliability will be more the limiting factor than speed; a lot of flash drives suck, they're slow and often randomly stall for a few seconds. Corsair and Kingston are the best ones I have, compared to all the no-names from vendors. Nothing beats an SSD bridge, but that's kind of awkward to hang off a TV or console.

That USB 3 drive sounds good, though, let us know how well it works.

[HeatM1ser]

ok....if I have troubles with the flash drive, I'll return it for another on...thanks guys! Its expected to arrive tomorrow, so I should be able to update you on if the drive was good enough to stream without skipping.

[HeatM1ser]

Ok...got the flash drive and I'm having problems. I formatted it using FAT32, which left just over 30GB worth of space. I tried to put an 18GB mkv on the flash drive and get an error. What can I do?
http://i.imgur.com/4Ps3842.jpg

[nevcairiel]

Don't format it using FAT32. FAT32 is limited to a maximum of 4GB per file. You need NTFS or exFAT for bigger files.

[HeatM1ser]

Well, One mistake I made was plugging the flash drive into the TVs USB port. When I plugged it into the Xbox One, it recognize the movie enough to show a picture, but when I tried to play the movie on the Xbox One, it said it was an unsupported file format(mkv)...what can I do? I just want to play bluray quality videos from a USB drive on my Xbox One or TV

[Ghitulescu]

Well, One mistake I made was plugging the flash drive into the TVs USB port. When I plugged it into the Xbox One, it recognize the movie enough to show a picture, but when I tried to play the movie on the Xbox One, it said it was an unsupported file format(mkv)...what can I do? I just want to play bluray quality videos from a USB drive on my Xbox One or TV

It's very simple - read the manuals of both things to see what they support.

[HeatM1ser]

It's very simple - read the manuals of both things to see what they support.

Thats simply an ignorant response. Its unnecessary to take your misery out on others. Everyone else has been helpful so far until you came and posted that.Completely useless, and the sad thing is that you know it. I truly pity you.

[Ghitulescu]

Well, I understand that asking is simpler than trying to figure out for yourself.. but you haven't even the level 1 of homeworks completed.

You have a file and and you have troubles with it. Why? Nobody else than you should know why because it's you the one that made this file. It appears to be an MKV, of a rather big size, which fairly suggests it's a BDREMUX, that is the video is most probably H.264 and the audio at least DD if not HDaudio.

Have you checked whther your players support this? In my misery I alsways check at the store whether my new player would support what I intend to play. Moreover, have you checked whther, assuming they support it, they also support it from burned optical media, network or USB? Many don't. My players do not support any of them MP3 from DVDR, yet they are happy to play them from anything else, network, CDR, USB etc.

If any of the answers is NO, you have to do something - either a workaround, or a change in hardware (a new player).

PS: to keep a 17GB file (or a BD25) on an USB stick one can use a 32GB, 64 is however recommended at today's prices (and for BD50). Provided it's formatted NTFS (or ext2/ext3). Which poses the problem that some (older) players do not support it.

[hello_hello]

I don't own an XBox anything but there's a list of supported file types for the Xbox One here:
http://support.xbox.com/en-AU/xbox-one/system/media-player-faq
The "coming late 2014" description for MKV implies MKV wasn't supported initially, but added via some sort of firmware/software update, which a quick Google seems to confirm:
http://news.xbox.com/2014/08/xbox-one-update-media-player-smartglass
In the process of searching, I stumbled upon a list of the video and audio types supported within an MKV container:
http://support.xbox.com/en-AU/xbox-one/xbox-video/mkv-support

If you try to play a supported file type containing an unsupported type of audio or video, most players will display a message to that effect, or maybe an unsupported codec message (as opposed to an unsupported file type). I'd assume the Xbox One would probably do the same. It's not uncommon for a certain type of video or audio to be supported in one container (file type) but not another.

The MKV specs are evolving, and sometimes that'll upset a player even though it supports MKV (ie it'll play old MKVs fine but not always more recently created ones), however that's a different issue again.
https://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/
https://trac.bunkus.org/wiki/FAQ%3AImprovingPlaybackCompatibilityWithPlayers

[hello_hello]

By the way, will another Bluray player play burned blurays that the Xbox wouldnt?

Every Sony player I've used will play standalone files from disc, assuming it supports them (MP4, MKV, AVI etc). Earlier models had no USB input, so via disc was the only way to do it. And of course they'll play discs burned using the standard DVD and Bluray formats.
Keep in mind most, if not all, current Bluray players implement Cinavia copy protection (it's compulsory these days). It's a kind of watermark contained within the audio. Movies with Cinavia are in the minority, and it's a copy protection not found outside Bluray players all that much (except maybe for Sony devices such as PS3 or licensed software players), but it's something to keep in mind.
Try a Google search on "list of cinavia movies" or something similar.

[HeatM1ser]

Well, I understand that asking is simpler than trying to figure out for yourself.. but you haven't even the level 1 of homeworks completed.

You have a file and and you have troubles with it. Why? Nobody else than you should know why because it's you the one that made this file. It appears to be an MKV, of a rather big size, which fairly suggests it's a BDREMUX, that is the video is most probably H.264 and the audio at least DD if not HDaudio.

Have you checked whther your players support this? In my misery I alsways check at the store whether my new player would support what I intend to play. Moreover, have you checked whther, assuming they support it, they also support it from burned optical media, network or USB? Many don't. My players do not support any of them MP3 from DVDR, yet they are happy to play them from anything else, network, CDR, USB etc.

If any of the answers is NO, you have to do something - either a workaround, or a change in hardware (a new player).

PS: to keep a 17GB file (or a BD25) on an USB stick one can use a 32GB, 64 is however recommended at today's prices (and for BD50). Provided it's formatted NTFS (or ext2/ext3). Which poses the problem that some (older) players do not support it.
I have done my homework, and the guy who posted after you poted the links that I had read. It says MKV files will be supported by late 2014, which is why I am confused why mine didnt work.What other file format is as close to bluray quality that I can try?(Yes, I see the other formats accepted, but just dont know which is of the highest quality)

[Ghitulescu]

It says MKV files will be supported by late 2014, which is why I am confused why mine didnt work

Yeah, the (in)fameous marketing trick - this feature will be present in a future firmware :)

I understand this.

Reading the linked pages are also less encourgaging as they only state the future plans...

In your case it appears that you have to downconvert the audio, as even in the future plans THD and DTSHD are not supported within MKV.


The only good solution IMHO is to buy a multimedia player. This will certainly play most if not all combinations of codec/container/media (like H.264+AAC/MP4/USB) and thus play files of various origins without convertions.
If you choose this path, check and test them, as many of them actually have issues with HD audio. For instance, when I bought mine many years ago there were exactly two models that could play a backuped bluray disc.

PS: I had this kind of discussions many times over in various (eg Satellite fora) all revolving around the same thing: why my XYZ receiver cannot play AVI or MKV or MP4? The answer is in short the same, because they are something different (sat-receiver, game console etc) and any facility in this direction is a bonus not an acquired right.

[hello_hello]

I have done my homework, and the guy who posted after you poted the links that I had read. It says MKV files will be supported by late 2014, which is why I am confused why mine didnt work.What other file format is as close to bluray quality that I can try?(Yes, I see the other formats accepted, but just dont know which is of the highest quality)

Maybe then, when asking "why can't I play MKVs" you might have included that information. You still haven't made it clear whether you've updated the firmware/software (I don't own an Xbox, so I don't know how it works) but I'd assume given you're expecting to be able to play MKVs you've done just that.
The more info you provide the easier it's likely to be to find the cause of the problem.

We know you've just bought a 65 inch TV, and if it's got a USB port it's very likely to have an inbuilt media player, and it's most likely capable of playing MKVs, but without more details, who knows......

The procedure is generally something like this:
If you don't know exactly what's in the files you're trying to play, have a look with MediaInfo (http://www.videohelp.com/tools/MediaInfo) (download the portable version to avoid any Adware). After opening a media file the View/Tree menu will provide details you can copy and paste here if need be.
With any luck the device's manual will provide you with details regarding the containers (file types) it'll play and the various video and audio formats supported by each container. From there you'd work out if the container/video codec/audio codec combination is one your device supports.
Unfortunately the info provided by the manufacturer is often vague and/or incomplete, so it's not always that simple, but that's the starting point. If you can't work it out, post all the details provided by MediaInfo along with the player make and model if need be, and with any luck, someone might be able to help.

It seems a little odd the Xbox displayed some sort of thumbnail of the video (I assume, as you said it displayed a picture) but then said the file type wasn't supported.
Maybe the video is of a supported type, but the audio is not. If that's the case, many players would play the video without any audio, but the Xbox may just refuse to play it completely. I don't know. If it's the audio that's the problem, it can be converted to another format without re-encoding the video if need be, but first things first......

[setarip_old]

@HeatM1ser

Hi!

Just as an historical piece of information, IIRC the earliest XBoxes played the then-competing HD-DVDs but not Blu-rays...

[Sparktank]

IIRC the earliest XBoxes played the then-competing HD-DVDs but not Blu-rays...
Xbox One supports blu-ray.
http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/apps/watch-bluray-dvd-movies

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HeatM1ser, maybe Nero wasn't a good idea.
It's not exactly the first thing people talk about when creating discs.
Maybe a decade ago.

What exactly did you do with AnyDVD?
Did you copy the movie-only, like to MKV and then use Nero to author a BD Disc?

You should try AnyDVD with BD-Rebuilder, maybe.
It re-authors discs to be compliant. And more talked about than Nero.
It's also free.

AnyDVD is needed to just to decrypt the disc, as BD-Rebuilder is not a decrypter.

I don't have a BD burner, so I don't have a need for BD-Rebuilder so can't say if it will copy the movie (no transcoding) or if it will re-encode (based on settings).

As for burning to disc, use ImgBurn.
It respects images and formats much better than Nero.
It's also free. And highly recommended way more than Nero.

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Looking up support for the Xbox One and Bluray, it should support audio formats up to 7.1, and various audio formats (DTS, Dolby).
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=12665

Try going to that support page on xbox website and queue up to install that. Again if necessary.
http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/apps/watch-bluray-dvd-movies
The console might need a codec update.
IIRC, any codec updates/support need to be done manually.
AAC has 2 update patches for the 360, both need to searched manually and clicked-to-install.

Sign in and queue it to install then try the disc again.
And try the original disc. The original should work.
If the original works, then Nero didn't do a good job making the disc.

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Regarding external devices for Xbox One....
http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/xbox_support/xbox_one_support/f/4274/t/1830562.aspx
*scroll down*

Posted 3 Jan 2015 9:40 PM
Steps to solve external hard drive issues for use with games and apps:
1) Format the drive to NTFS to get the Xbox One to recognize it as a media device.

Plug the drive into your PC
Press the Windows Key + E to bring up Windows Explorer
Find the drive in the sidebar on the left, right click on it and select "Format..."
Format the drive. NTFS is the only important thing; default settings should be fine.
This may take awhile. Disconnect the drive when the format completes

2) Format the drive to work with Xbox One games and apps.

Turn on your Xbox One, press the Menu button on your controller and navigate to the Settings page
Navigate to System, then Manage Storage
Plug in the external hard drive, it should appear to the right of Internal storage. If it does not, verify it fulfills the listed requirements on the Storage page
Highlight the drive, select it with the A button (or voice or gesture), and then select Format [drive for Xbox One games and apps]
Almost instantly it should be formatted and you're good to go!

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I don't have an XO. Just a 360.
I don't use it for anything these days, not even movie playback.

Try using the search in some threads in the "MPEG-4 Encoder GUIs" sub-forum.
http://forum.doom9.org/forumdisplay.php?f=78

Pick any thread and do a search for xbox one in there.
Try the ones already mentioned: MeGUI, Staxrip.
Any of the ones with frequent activity.
Someone is bound to have some feedback on encoding for XO.