Profile 5.2 on a tv set

[anuswara]

Hello,

I want to purchase the awesome Galaxy Note4 (mirroring MHL3 available, this will be important for me), but
*before* purchasing it, I want to watch some videos recorded by Note4 itself!

My problem:
my tv and my Oppo are unable to handle 4K videos with this high profile L5.1, but L4.2 only.
For analyzing the level of noise in low light its not enough using my Monitor, but I need my TV.

How to do?
it were super if I could watch 2 minutes of my native MP4 4K @L5.1 on my tv.
Thanks for suggestions.
Regards.

PS: is doom10 dead?

[hello_hello]

You can't connect your PC/laptop to your TV?

Yes. Doom10 is dead. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1701897#post1701897

[anuswara]

Hi, thanks you for your reply!

good idea :)

the laptop have hdmi connector.
I tried one time in the past for other reasons and I was able to see only the wallpaper on tv, also the windows icons and the mouse pointer disappeared after a while. its strange.

tomorrow I will try again to conncet the laptop to the tv via hdmi, I hope that I can see the "whole" laptop on tv and not only the wallpaper photo.

thanks a lot.
best regards.

[hello_hello]

There's a few different modes for running a second display. I rarely use laptops but I think generally one of the F keys (maybe F4 or F5) has a blue(?) image on it that might look something like a display if you use your imagination, and tapping that F key while holding down the function (Fn) key will cycle through the display modes (mirrored, spanning or dual mode etc). Dual mode is probably what you want. Or you can enable and configure the displays via Windows Display Properties if need be.

Normally the Desktop icons will stay on the Primary display (laptop screen) when running in dual mode, unless you move them yourself. If you run the displays in clone/mirrored mode that'd be a different story.

If you open a program with the displays in dual mode and maximise it, it'll be maximised only on the display it was running on at the time. You can drag windows from one display to another when they're not maximised. That way you can open a video with a player such as MPC-HC, drag the player over to the TV and run the video in fullscreen mode on the TV while using the laptop display as you normally would.

[SeeMoreDigital]

My problem:
my tv and my Oppo are unable to handle 4K videos with this high profile L5.1, but L4.2 only.

The Oppo does not support 4K encoded video sources period, regardless of the profile. And neither will your TV unless you've bought a 4K model with a built-in 4K AVC/HEVC decoder chip-set!

[anuswara]

Ok hello_hello,
thanks for your suggestions, I will try and tell the results ;)

SeeMoreDigital:
even on a non 4k tv set there is a big difference between 4k and 1080p recorded videos. look here for an example:
at 1080p I am unable to read what is written on the pertrol station while with 4k I do it :)
vlcsnap-00001.png
vs
vlcsnap-00002.png
(the second part bottom is written in english).

then the 4K is super due to the 48Mbps, this is very important if you take videos from water sea fountain... like this one:
vlcsnap-000tt01.png

vlcsnap-00001 (2):
you can take a crop 100% of the grass too.

the difference is awesome in my opinion even on non 4k displays :)


[[ and I found this online (always note4, always stamp):
vlcsnap-0000pppp1.png
vs
vlcsnap-00002pppp.png
http://www50.zippyshare.com/v/8287625/file.html
http://www50.zippyshare.com/v/62637627/file.html
you will be able to read the price 2,55.....]]

here all the links:
http://www50.zippyshare.com/v/35763545/file.html
http://www50.zippyshare.com/v/95952951/file.html
http://www50.zippyshare.com/v/38902440/file.html
http://www50.zippyshare.com/v/2968382/file.html
http://www50.zippyshare.com/v/89676747/file.html

so I strongly need 4K even on a fullHd tv ;)

[SeeMoreDigital]

Yes, a 4K image down-scaled for viewing on a 2K display will look better than its equivalent 2K image. But that's not what I was replying to!

[anuswara]

I know that for watching 4k videos its needed a 4k tv ;)

but I added that there are wonderful results even if the 4k is downscaled ;)

perhaps I read too many people saying every day "4k is unuseful if your tv is not 4k...."
and this is stressing (other than total wrong), but you did not say this hehe
very good :)

[hello_hello]

Well I'll confess comparing the 4K and 1080p pictures using a 1080p TV didn't leave me overwhelmed with 4K excitement. When you described the difference as being "awesome" I assume you were using an alternative definition of the word "awesome" I was previously unaware of, and one which means "not awesome"? :)

It's kind of hard to compare them because they're not exactly the same picture each time, but when the 4K and 1080p versions are running fullscreen on my 51" TV, the difference isn't "huge" to me. Yes there's a difference and (for the pic of the road and petrol station, at least) the difference is quite obvious when viewing the 4K version at it's full size (not downscaled to fit the screen). It looks very good.

I wonder though if the 1080p version is less clear running fullscreen on my TV for reasons other than resolution alone. The 1080p versions, were they filmed at 1080p? I don't know much about digital cameras but I did find myself wondering if the camera's not particularly good at downscaling to 1080p. The 1080p version almost looks like it was de-interlaced. If you look at straight lines.... ie the power cables running down the middle of the road, they don't look straight but a little jagged. The same applies to the top of the windscreen of the first car. And it almost looks like there was some sort of edge enhancement being applied to the 1080p version. The contrast isn't quite the same, or the edges of objects in the 1080p version are darker.

For the pics of the road and petrol station there's definitely a reasonable difference between the 4k and 1080p versions, but I'm not sure I'd put it all down to resolution. Someone more clever than I am may be able to explain the differences.... or explain why I'm wrong....

[anuswara]

Hi,

awesome I want to tell "better than excellent".
also a very big difference.
in other words 4K is a drug, when you try it you cannot abstain from waching 4k only!

if now I watch 1080p I feel me wrong, not satisfied, but nervous.


the same my father.
perhaps eyes illnes? :)

yes, 1080p is filmed 1080p.
I can assure that note4 films as sony ax100 (2000 $) !
day (not low light obviously): I call this a wonder. a miracle. the sensor is not "the same" hehe
you can try the best camera (ax100) and compare with this smartphone!
cx730 is bad.


no, progressive. native file.
Jagged at 1080p, not at 4k ;)

do you know if exist a videocamera 4k that is able to record better? I dont.
I were happy to see some links. I am interested in good cameras 4k. No more expensive than 2000usd. and I fall in love with this "phone": note4 600usd.
if there are someone better, then welcome. lumix with 1'' sensor...but 15p! therefor a "fake" camera :)

the other sony (4500$) is very bad in low light, very very bad.

the bad in this "more than excellent note4 (note4 is a phone)" is: 4k at 30p only. 30p is not enough!
but 4K at 60p doesnt exist. (the above quoted camera 4500usd is 4k 60p ok, but very bad in low light).
PS: ops I just compared a phone with camera pro! hehe

and the photos of note4 looks fast better than sony ar100.
what I want to say/to tell:

except the sony ax100 (2000$) there is some phone (or camera or cameraphone) that is able to do better?
surely the bluray are much bad much less quality.
I can wait if someone may want to post a videos with sea waves that looks better than note4 at 48Mbps.

after one month of tests my doubt is the flickering hmmm. but it is hard to discover newer algorhythms to avoid flickering. my friend written some algorhythm antiflickering for his PhD thesis for the image processing laboratory but I dont know if they has been adopted...in the meantime he eliminates the noise from old film black-white, historical documentary or so...

also you dont notice differencies between 1080p and "4k downscaled"? oh very strange. for me the difference is huge:
1080p I cannot tell you the price of petrol, with 4k downscaled (to fit the PC monitor 24'') I can it hehe :)

[hello_hello]

I can see the 4K version is clearer when they're both running fullscreen on my TV, but that's comparing still images while sitting a couple of feet from the TV screen. If it was a moving picture and I was a little further away at normal viewing distance I'm not sure how easy it'd be to tell them apart.

I'm not saying the 4K version doesn't look better, even when it's being resized down to 1080p, but I'm also not convinced the 1080p version looks as good as it should. To me it looks like some sort of processing has been applied to the image and it's had a detrimental effect. The same applies to the jagged lines. I'm not sure that's a direct result of the resolution being 1080p. I don't really know, so I'll wait for another opinion.

[anuswara]

Yes the video looks wonderful.
but until I dont have a smartphone LTE, with adsl only I am really unable to upload 4K videos :(
so at the moment I can send to you few photos only (a bit off topic), I hope that they dont look too bad (for a phone) :)
http://www44.zippyshare.com/i/44576256/125286/46cQQHC%20-%20Imgur.jpg
http://www44.zippyshare.com/i/42931815/18/JjFi9KP%20-%20Imgur.jpg

1080p:
I guess (not sure) that at 4K the OIS only is working, while with 1080p an digital stab is automatically added (?)....maybe...

I'd be very grateful and happy if there exist phones at 50p (instead of 60p, 30p), to avoid the flickering :(