BD3D and MUX with Scenarist 5.7.2

[srfscenar]

Hi all,

I have imported a single 23'' MVC file in Scenarist 5.7.2.
Added it to a title in editor and just hit export.

Now, the strange thing is, in the BDMV\STREAM folder it created,
the 0000.m2ts and 0001.m2ts are FOLDERS and not files...
And inside each one are:
ES.list
Packet.base
Packet.info
Seek.list

And the SSIF folder is empty.
The same for the .img file. Again its a Folder.

Am I doing something wrong with the export?
I tried to burn those to a disc but it's useless...

Any ideas?

PS: I am a newbie to 3D Authoring...

[bigotti5]

You have to mount \Output\image\BDROM\FSImage0.img (BD only) or Wrapping.img (IMG and BD) with FMXmounter (Utilities)

[srfscenar]

That easy, huh!!!

OK, got another question pls...
In BD's that have the option to playback 2D and 3D content, they have the movie inserted twice?
One in MVC and one in AVC, or only the MVC and if the user selects 2D, it plays the Base file (Left eye) only?

And last, what about the menus? Are they inserted twice, one with offset and another without?

Sorry for all these, I just wanna know the procedure...

Thanks!

[rik1138]

The movie only gets put in once, and (usually) the Left eye plays in a 2D setup (you can make the right eye the primary view if you want, but left is used by default).

I believe the menus basically do the same thing, what would normally appear for the Left eye is all you see in a 2D environment. If your graphics go all the way to the edge of the screen, this will likely cause them to appear cut-off on one side, so I'd keep that in mind when designing the menus (don't use graphics that touch the edges of the screen unless they are on the actual plane of the TV itself, i.e., no 3D offset on the menu graphics).

You can put in a separate 2D menu (and movie if you wanted to) and use programming to launch those specifically (which could solve the graphics not touching the edge scenario mentioned above). For a feature length movie that wouldn't be practical obviously, but if it was a short piece and you have an actual 2D version, you can do that.

[srfscenar]

Thanks rik.
I have three more questions please...

What about the new SetStreamSS command? Is this one to be used with 3D streams and the other (SetStream) for 2D?
Won't SetStreamSS work for 3D subtitles?

I read somewhere, (can't remember now but I could find it if you want) that in an older than 5.7.2 Scenarist in order to create the layer break
for 3D blu-ray, you had to split the Feature in 2 parts in encoding. One part for Layer0 and the other for Layer1.
Is that true???:scared: Or is it fixed in latest Scenarist?

And last, (sorry for all these), why some studios release 2D and 3D blu-ray discs in different discs, since they could have it all in a 3D by playing the left eye for 2D? Just curious...

Thanks!

[rik1138]

Sorry, missed this...
I've never programmed a fully functional 3D disc, so I've never had to use the SetStream commands, so not sure about those.
I did do a feature length 3D Blu-ray though, and it had no problems with layer breaks in a single-movie file over 25gb... Never had to split a feature for Blu-ray with Scenarist.

Generally, the studios want to make sure their 2D presentations look proper... (And since they make a 2D disc anyway, might as well just include it).
I know for a fact that Disney uses a different master for 2D (called 'center-eye'), that is slightly different than either the left or right eye view (centered properly, as the name implies).
Since you can't see the very edge on one side of each eye, when viewing a 3D movie in 2D you will sometimes get a small black bar on one side of the screen that you wouldn't see in 3D mode. They correct this (or make sure it doesn't happen) on 2D versions. (Although they could still make sure it doesn't happen in the 3D version and then not worry about it...)

Also, sometimes the 2D only version has all the Extras on that disc, so that disc is included with a 3D movie as the bonus disc (since they rarely put extras on the 3D disc). But for titles with a 3D movie only disc, 2D movie only disc, and a bonus disc, it seems like it would be cheaper to just make the 3D disc viewable in a 2D setup... But maybe the cost of removing that black edge is more than making another disc. And, of course, '3-disc set' sounds more impressive (i.e., expensive) than '2-disc set' regardless of whether it makes sense or not... :cool:

[srfscenar]

Thanks rik!