DVD video not seekable...

[psydvd]

Hello everyone. I've got a problem which I couldn't find answer to it via google or this site. I have a DVD which is not seekable via a seek bar in the computer (in PowerDVD or MPC-HC), the only way to actually "seek" is via rewind or fast forward, which is problematic for viewing it in PC.

I believe it's a problem with the VOB or IFO file. I tried some method I've read here about let VOBBlanker rebuild it, bet didn't help too much.

Another thing I've noticed is that the chapters in the VOB file are in different order, than when you put the DVD to play:

By playing regularly the DVD, the order is:
Company Logo > Menu > Titles > Movie

In the VOB Files (in Premiere) the order is:
VTS_01_1: Company Logo > Movie
VTS_01_2: Rest of the Movie > Titles
and the Menu is in VTS_01_0.

I need help in solving this issue, because this DVD is very important to me, and I watch DVDs only on my Desktop PC. I'm also attaching the VobBlanker log file.

Thanks in advance, and sorry for the length of this post and my not-so-good English.

[TheSkiller]

There's nothing wrong structurally with your DVD. The reason you cannot jump to a specific point on the timeline is because the appropriate PUO (Prohibited User Operation) has been enabled by whoever authored the DVD. It may be on purpose or may be an accident (probably the latter because otherwise forward scan and backward scan would have been prohibited as well).

Get PgcEdit, select the PGC (Program Chain) of the main movie on the left and double click it. In the new window, on the left, click the "..." button where it says "Prohibited User Operations".

Do not uncheck all PUOs, uncheck only:


Time play or search (1)
PTT play or search (2)
Time or PTT search (32)


Save. Done (well, unless there are also PUOs set in the VOBs which is possible but rather unlikely).

[psydvd]

Thanks for your reply, but unfortunately it didn't solve it.

Only the first option was checked (Time play or search) in all the PGCs (except for the Logo part which also included prohibited access to the menus), and i've unchecked every one of them, but for no good. I still can't search via the seek bar.

Maybe it's in the VOBs themselves like you've said. Do you know how to disable them?

Any other suggestions will be great...

[TheSkiller]

Alright, then there must be PUOs inside the VOBs as well. Someone did a thorough job there to annoy you. :p

Get PUO-Plugin 2.0 from the PcgEdit site (http://download.videohelp.com/r0lz/pgcedit/), install it by coping it to the plugins folder and then start PgcEdit.

Mark a PGC on the left then put the cursor on "Plugins" (top), select "Edit VOB PUOs of current domain".

At the bottom click "Get PUOs from VOBs". This may take a second.

On the very left make sure you uncheck the three PUOs quoted in my last post (or only the first one if the that's the only one checked).
There should be no remaining checks of these PUOs in the whole line.

Click "Write PUOs to VOBs". Done.

[Video Dude]

Sounds like the DVD is missing the time map. If there is no VTS_PGCITI, then the DVD will not be seekable.



This thread may be helpful:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=664524

[psydvd]

Alright, then there must be PUOs inside the VOBs as well. Someone did a thorough job there to annoy you. :p

Get PUO-Plugin 2.0 from the PcgEdit site (http://download.videohelp.com/r0lz/pgcedit/), install it by coping it to the plugins folder and then start PgcEdit.

Mark a PGC on the left then put the cursor on "Plugins" (top), select "Edit VOB PUOs of current domain".

At the bottom click "Get PUOs from VOBs". This may take a second.

On the very left make sure you uncheck the three PUOs quoted in my last post (or only the first one if the that's the only one checked).
There should be no remaining checks of these PUOs in the whole line.

Click "Write PUOs to VOBs". Done.

Well, it seems it didn't work also. And I must say that THERE WAS actually PUOs in the VOB files (If I recall correctly something like Next Program Search), and I disabled it, just to encouter the same problem. I've also try to put the whole dvd in VTSFIX and also bad luck. :confused:

Sounds like the DVD is missing the time map. If there is no VTS_PGCITI, then the DVD will not be seekable.

This thread may be helpful:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=664524

This is the thread I looked up in the first place, I processed the DVD in VobBlanker and the console wrote:
NOTE: PGC: 1 is not a One Seq PGC. Anyway, creating entries in TMAPTI
(I've attached the log file here). I've tried now to use DvdReMake and still no solution.

It seems like the people who authored this release really were paranoid about pirating or something, or maybe their authoring software just screwed up the VOB's data (like this early MP3 files showing bad timing). I'm still looking for suggestions, thanks for anyone helped until now.

[setarip_old]

Hi! Hello everyone. I've got a problem which I couldn't find answer to it via google or this site. I have a DVD which is not seekable via a seek bar in the computer (in PowerDVD or MPC-HC), the only way to actually "seek" is via rewind or fast forward, which is problematic for viewing it in PC.

1) Does the original commercial DVD play this way on your desktop, or is the problem only observable when you play a backup copy that you've made?

2) Does your original, commercial DVD exhibit the same problem(s) if you play it on a standalone player?

3) Have you tried creating an .ISO for playback?

[bigotti5]

t seems like the people who authored this release really were paranoid about pirating or something, or maybe their authoring software just screwed up the VOB's data (like this early MP3 files showing bad timing). I'm still looking for suggestions, thanks for anyone helped until now.
By the spec only one sequential pgcs can have time maps, prevpgc/nextpgc flags have to be 0 in one sequential pgcs.
PowerDVD disables slider for every PGC that is not one sequential or have prevpgc/nextpgc flags set.

[psydvd]

Alright, after few days I've actually gave up trying to make this release streamable, I've suddenly discovered KMPlayer - which to my surprise let me use the seekbar!!! (Of course, after I've removed all PUOs from the IFOs and VOBs.)

I've also tried it on other DVDs and it works magic, way better than PowerDVD's awful and slow user interface, or VLC's / MPC-HC's partial DVD navigation & menu support (MPC-HC actually play most of the DVD menus, while VLC is utter garbage on whatever related to DVD intreractive content.)

Now I'll try use it on DVD-Game I have, and some VCDs and if it passes the test - it'll be an equivalent to foobar2000 supremeness only in the video domain, (Well maybe i'm exagerating, and sorry for the fanboi attitude, I'm just happy for actually finding something that can handle this cursed DVD.)