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supernater
31st December 2013, 16:53
I thought I would try to compress my old Vampire Hunter D DVD, however, the interlacing has me confused. It looks interlaced, yet DGindex says that it is progressive. I'm thinking that it actually IS progressive, but that the DVD authors did a bad job deinterlacing it. Is it even possible to fix this? I tried the deinterlacing plugins included with MeGUI but the only one that came close (barely) was the "hybrid film/interlaced. Mostly interlaced" option. Here is a sample...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/zge8ml

Guest
31st December 2013, 17:21
Other than the title screen, which is just garbage in (what looks like interlacing appears to be in fact dot crawl), the rest looks like just 3:2 pulldown implemented with a mix of hard and soft pulldown. I made a project honoring pulldown and then did this and it looks OK to me:

telecide()
decimate()

Be aware as has been said many times, DGIndex cannot tell you whether the *content* is actually progressive/interlaced, but only how it is encoded. You need to determine the nature of the content by visual inspection, usually after separating the fields.

http://neuron2.net/faq.html#analysis

poisondeathray
31st December 2013, 17:46
You can treat the title screen separately e.g. attempt to fix it with avisynth filters or completely fix it in an image editor (or vector program to trace it) , and replace it

supernater
4th January 2014, 00:41
When I decimate my frame rate drops to about 19 fps and the film becomes jerky. Should I adjust my frame rate to smooth out the playback? Is there a good way to do this?

poisondeathray
4th January 2014, 01:08
When I decimate my frame rate drops to about 19 fps and the film becomes jerky. Should I adjust my frame rate to smooth out the playback? Is there a good way to do this?

Did you have DGIndex set to "force film" ? because that will make it about 19

Set it to video=> field operation => "honor pulldown flags"

supernater
4th January 2014, 02:10
Yes, when I'm using DGindex the "honor pull-down" option is checked. After I use the avisynth function decimate() the fps drops to about 19 and the playback has occasionaly stutters. Although, this could be a produce of the original source because the source is pretty awful and the playback is not smooth to begin with. I'm hoping there is a filter that can fix or minimize this.

poisondeathray
4th January 2014, 02:12
Yes, when I'm using DGindex the "honor pull-down" option is checked. After I use the avisynth function decimate() the fps drops to about 19 and the playback has occasionaly stutters. Although, this could be a produce of the original source because the source is pretty awful and the playback is not smooth to begin with. I'm hoping there is a filter that can fix or minimize this.

Reindex the file with the honor pulldown setting (make a new d2v). You probably had it on force film the 1st time

Guest
4th January 2014, 02:28
Yes, that's good advice. You can also look in your D2V file and see what FO is set to. It should be 0 and you can just edit the D2V file and not have to re-index.

supernater
4th January 2014, 18:42
Yes, that's good advice. You can also look in your D2V file and see what FO is set to. It should be 0 and you can just edit the D2V file and not have to re-index.

Thanks for the useful tip! The Field_Operation was set to 1, I changed it to 0 and it works fine. One more thing...

The panning in the original source is jerky. Is there a filter that can fix this? I stumbled on this thread (http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/352345-trying-to-remove-jerky-motion-while-panning-in-animation-with-Avisynth), but the sample he uploaded where he claimed to have smoothed the jerky motion seems to stutter anyway.

Guest
4th January 2014, 18:53
Are you seeing jerky panning in the sample you gave us? I do not. It could be a display issue. You can step through by frames and see if there really are any missing or duplicated frames that could account for jerkiness.

supernater
5th January 2014, 17:13
The DVD source is pretty bad so I guess my tolerance for jerky panning is different from yours. This is actually the most difficult DVD I've had to compress, the production quality is terrible. It is the first release of the DVD, which I think is the worst one compared to the two releases after it. Whoever made this DVD obviously stopped caring a long time ago. They even left in the cigarette burns during some of the scene switches. If anyone has a copy of the DVD they can see an examples at 16:52 and 56:08 during playback. Another interesting thing about this DVD is that if you listen closely at 56:23 to 56:27 you can hear background music. The background music is Peter Gabriel's 1986 hit song "Big Time", I guess the tech must have been listening to this while he made the audio track :D. It plays just as D wakes up from his nap, lol! You can hear it if you have the volume cranked and it only plays for a few seconds, but it is definitely there. I barely caught it and only did so because my neighbor started his snowblower and I had to crank the volume to continue listening to my rip. I wonder what other "easter eggs" are in this release...

Anyway, a combination of vmtoon, tweak, tfm, fluxsmootht, and some antialiasing seemed to do the trick. This is one of my all time favorite movies so I wanted to do whatever I could to make as good a rip as a could. Thanks for your help!

Guest
5th January 2014, 17:22
LOL! Yes, it certainly is crappy based on the dot crawl on the opening screen. They apparently passed it through an analog composite connection. Shameful. Anyway, glad you got it sorted somewhat to your satisfaction.