Possible To Add More Automation To the AnyDVD HD/BD-Rebuilder/ImgBurn Process?

[tn jim]

With two BD R/W drives in a PC would it ever be possible to make a movie backup by having AnyDVD HD do its thing then automatically pass the file to BDR which would then process the file and automatically pass the file to ImgBurn to complete the process?

Thank you!

[RobertM]

I thought that this is already possible.

Start AnyDVD. Point BD-RB to the original disc as the source. Use the auto-burn feature in BD-RB, using the other BD-R/W drive as the target.

Speaking for myself, however, I wouldn't do this. I think it is better to rip to the HDD first, and I like to validate the rebuild result before committing a BD-R for the burn.

[tn jim]

I thought that this is already possible.

Start AnyDVD. Point BD-RB to the original disc as the source. Use the auto-burn feature in BD-RB, using the other BD-R/W drive as the target.

Speaking for myself, however, I wouldn't do this. I think it is better to rip to the HDD first, and I like to validate the rebuild result before committing a BD-R for the burn.

Good to know.

Thank you!

[tn jim]

I thought that this is already possible.

Start AnyDVD. Point BD-RB to the original disc as the source. Use the auto-burn feature in BD-RB, using the other BD-R/W drive as the target.

Speaking for myself, however, I wouldn't do this. I think it is better to rip to the HDD first, and I like to validate the rebuild result before committing a BD-R for the burn.

Has anyone here tried the two drive process described above, if so were the results satisfactory?

[jdobbs]

For the best efficiency I'd recommend ripping to hard drive rather than working directly from the BD drive. You will also find the process to be faster if the source and destination are on two different physical drives. I'm not sure what process you reference with AnyDVD. I simply use Windows Explorer to copy the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders (as well as disc.inf) from BD to hard drive. Since AnyDVD is working in the background it is decrypting on-the-fly.

But there's no reason why you couldn't set one BD drive as source, a hard drive as working path, and set the IMGBURN_TARGET_DEVICE hidden option to the other BD drive (holding a blank disc). Then if you check "Auto-burn to disc (with IMGBURN)" the entire process would be automated end-to-end. It would just take a little longer than what I recommended above.

[tn jim]

Mr. jdobbs,

Right now I'm ripping original movie to HDD using AnyDVD HD, removing the original movie from the drive, inserting blank BD-R disc, opening BDRebuilder, selecting the HDD BD Source folder and then initiating Backup. I only have one HDD in my PC now, could I add an external USB 3.0 HDD to do as you describe?

In the olden days using DVD Shrink, two DVD drives and AnyDVD, I was able to put the original movie in one drive, put a DVD-R in the other drive, do a one click start and the whole backup copy process would complete itself unattended by an operator.

I really liked the DVD Shrink one click process and was looking for a way to accomplish that using the AnyDVD HD, BDR, ImgBurn process which I fully understand is far more complex than the DVD Shrink process.

I also understand that people in hell want ice water!

Thank you for all you do!

[jdobbs]

In the olden days using DVD Shrink, two DVD drives and AnyDVD, I was able to put the original movie in one drive, put a DVD-R in the other drive, do a one click start and the whole backup copy process would complete itself unattended by an operator. You can do that. That's exactly what I described here:But there's no reason why you couldn't set one BD drive as source, a hard drive as working path, and set the IMGBURN_TARGET_DEVICE hidden option to the other BD drive (holding a blank disc). Then if you check "Auto-burn to disc (with IMGBURN)" the entire process would be automated end-to-end. It would just take a little longer than what I recommended above.could I add an external USB 3.0 HDD to do as you describe? I don't understand why you'd need to?

[tn jim]

But there's no reason why you couldn't set one BD drive as source, a hard drive as working path, and set the IMGBURN_TARGET_DEVICE hidden option to the other BD drive (holding a blank disc). Then if you check "Auto-burn to disc (with IMGBURN)" the entire process would be automated end-to-end. It would just take a little longer than what I recommended above.

Ok, now I think I get it.

In practice are there any folks using the above approach, what might be the downside?

Thank you.

[Guest]

In practice are there any folks using the above approach, what might be the downside?
jdobbs explained twice that backups would take longer.

[tn jim]

jdobbs explained twice that backups would take longer.

Are there any other downsides?

Thank you.

[RobertM]

Are there any other downsides?

You don't get a chance to validate the rebuilt files before committing them to disc. If there was a problem with the rebuild you won't know it until some time in the future, possibly a time when you would want to depend on that rebuild.

[tn jim]

You don't get a chance to validate the rebuilt files before committing them to disc. If there was a problem with the rebuild you won't know it until some time in the future, possibly a time when you would want to depend on that rebuild.

How do you validate the rebuilt files?

How accurate is the ImgBurn Verify process in determining the validity/accuracy/integrity of the burned BD i.e. if the burned BD passes their Verify process will it playback without problems?

Thank you.

[Guest]

How do you validate the rebuilt files? You can view it with a software player.

How accurate is the ImgBurn Verify process in determining the validity/accuracy/integrity of the burned BD i.e. if the burned BD passes their Verify process will it playback without problems? It just tells you the data was written correctly, not that the data is correct.

[RobertM]

How accurate is the ImgBurn Verify process in determining the validity/accuracy/integrity of the burned BD i.e. if the burned BD passes their Verify process will it playback without problems?

It does happen on occasion that there will be a glitch in the rip, and this glitch will happen in such a way that it doesn't trigger any error messages. The rebuild process will work merrily along, without fuss, because it doesn't know that there has been a problem. ImgBurn doesn't complain because the burned disc is a perfect match for the corrupted build file. Upon playback, at some point the video hangs up and freezes for the rest of the film while the audio continues.

This is rare, but it does happen. To validate a rebuild before burning I simply open the m2ts file in a media player on my PC (usually VLC Media Player) and I view at least 3 spots; near the start, at the middle, and just before the credits. I look for good synch between speech and lip movements. If all that is good then I burn the disc.

[tn jim]

This is rare, but it does happen. To validate a rebuild before burning I simply open the m2ts file in a media player on my PC (usually VLC Media Player) and I view at least 3 spots; near the start, at the middle, and just before the credits. I look for good synch between speech and lip movements. If all that is good then I burn the disc.

If I am not bothered by wasting an occasional BD blank is it an ok idea to view the burned disc in the three places using my PC Power DVD 9 player, as I see it this would also confirm that the actual finished burn disc is good? When doing your 3 position spot check is it possible to have a bad segment (video freeze) between your spot checks that could go unnoticed?

BTW what causes a bad rip, I have a LG WH16NS40 drive?

Thank you.

[RobertM]

If I am not bothered by wasting an occasional BD blank is it an ok idea to view the burned disc in the three places using my PC Power DVD 9 player, as I see it this would also confirm that the actual finished burn disc is good?
Yes, that would work as an after-the-fact confirmation.

When doing your 3 position spot check is it possible to have a bad segment (video freeze) between your spot checks that could go unnoticed?
What I've seen is the video freeze for the remainder of the film, so this check would catch that. If there is another glitch, which doesn't stop the playback, then it would go undetected, but it would be undetected with my normal check anyway. And, if it doesn't stop the playback and is only a small glitch then it's not critical anyway.

BTW what causes a bad rip
A bad disc, or a scratched disc. Some discs can look perfect but still cause trouble when ripping on a PC.

[tn jim]

Yes, that would work as an after-the-fact confirmation.


What I've seen is the video freeze for the remainder of the film, so this check would catch that. If there is another glitch, which doesn't stop the playback, then it would go undetected, but it would be undetected with my normal check anyway. And, if it doesn't stop the playback and is only a small glitch then it's not critical anyway.


A bad disc, or a scratched disc. Some discs can look perfect but still cause trouble when ripping on a PC.

Very helpful info Robert. Thank you!