BD-Rebuilder & Apocalypto Disc - Audio Problem?

[tn jim]

My BDR copies of Apocalypto have a super-imposed audio director's commentary about how the movie was made that I can't switch off. I have tried both Movie Only and Full Backup modes. My Full Backup copy gives me an option to turn the commentary Off but it does not work.

I can control the director's commentary just fine on the original disc and it is off by default. Is there something in the BDR Setup menu that controls this? Can anyone here suggest a solution? Is this a BDR Bug?

Thank you!

[HWK]

How about providing info such as what setting were use initially when backup. I would guess director commentary selected for audio track during movie only backup, it is hard to know without extra info about backup parameters.

[tn jim]

How about providing info such as what setting were use initially when backup. I would guess director commentary selected for audio track during movie only backup, it is hard to know without extra info about backup parameters.

I have looked all thru the BDR Settings including Movie Only mode and cannot find any settings for selecting Audio Tracks. Can someone please direct me to the right location for audio track(s) selection?

Thank you!

[Ch3vr0n]

As said, anydvd does not modify playback behavior in such a way. No such change to audio is being done by default on ANY shrink mode by BDRB. My guess is that you're settings in BDRB tell it to limit to 1 audio track per language and that the commentary track just happened to be the first one. As such that one was used and not the main movie language. Check your settings in the SETTINGS > SETUP menu. There's a tickbox under the audio/subtitle languages to keep box called "Limit to one track for each language". Untick that one if it is ticked.

As far as the actual audio. Commentary is usual AC3 Stereo, main movie audio is most of the times HD multichannel like this "AUD_001 DTS-HD XLL, Multi-Ch, English"

[RobertM]

I think the problem likely happened because Apocalypto doesn't have an typical English spoken track. It was filmed in a native South American language, and wasn't dubbed, as far as I recall. I believe you have to watch it in the filmed language with the English subtitles turned on. If your settings called for only the English tracks then you got the Director's commentary, which is the only English track available.

Of course, this all from memory, so I could be mistaken. ;)

[tn jim]

As said, anydvd does not modify playback behavior in such a way. No such change to audio is being done by default on ANY shrink mode by BDRB. My guess is that you're settings in BDRB tell it to limit to 1 audio track per language and that the commentary track just happened to be the first one. As such that one was used and not the main movie language. Check your settings in the SETTINGS > SETUP menu. There's a tickbox under the audio/subtitle languages to keep box called "Limit to one track for each language". Untick that one if it is ticked.

As far as the actual audio. Commentary is usual AC3 Stereo, main movie audio is most of the times HD multichannel like this "AUD_001 DTS-HD XLL, Multi-Ch, English"

How will unticking that box resolve my problem with Apocalypto, also what effect will it have on the discs that I routinely would not have a problem with?

Thank you.

[Sparktank]

filmed in a native South American language, and wasn't dubbed

Yes, this is what's happening.

The actual audio track is "Mayan", there is no English in the film, except for the subtitles.
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Apocalypto-Blu-ray/403/

It's not registered as ENG, so it's probably just picking up the first ENG track it finds, in your case, the commentary.

For this case, try to change language settings to "select all" (at the top) and then disable tracks you don't want.
And then chane settings back to normal after this project.

[Ch3vr0n]

How will unticking that box resolve my problem with Apocalypto, also what effect will it have on the discs that I routinely would not have a problem with?

Thank you.

It may not solve the issue with that disc but it will prevent an issue where a movie has 2 or more english stream and where the HD audio isn't the first one.

Imagine

Movie has a standard AC3 dolby digital track english and a 2nd stream DTS-HD and they are ordered as such

<movie>
--<ac3 commentary dolby stream english>
--<dts-hd stream english>

without that checkbox unticked bdrb will limit itself to 1 track and it possibly be the 1st one listed (in this case the commentary) and use that one instead of the actual dts-hd movie audio.

if that audio track doesn't have a clear label like i do, i have configured bdrb to keep all "undetermined" languages as well. Could possibly fix it