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zerowalker
6th November 2013, 22:36
Will HEVC come to the Still-Image (Picture) world as well?

Like VP8 (sadly not VP9)?

Not sure if itīs the correct place to post it, as itīs not really Video related, or well a bit i guess.

But it would be very interesting, maybe not on the web but for archiving, as Images can take up alot of space when in large quantity.

Webp does a good jobb in lossless mode (Lossy however is extremely lacking, bad color tracking, guess itīs thanks to YV12).
x265_Project
6th November 2013, 23:33
It could. The benefits are certainly compelling. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Efficiency_Video_Coding#Main_Still_Picture

Whether or not something emerges as a standard can depend on more than just the technical merits.
Nevilne
6th November 2013, 23:41
The most realistic scenario for web would be a cdn that would automatically seve your lossless images to different formats on the fly, think hevc for supported browsers, jpg for unsupported mobile, png for unsupported desktop.
It would also likely be webp over hevc.
As for archival, you're really free to do anything really, x264 stillimage is very good lossy compressor.
mandarinka
7th November 2013, 00:29
YOu might be interested in this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=167235). It's a question though if/when it gets significant support in tools/programs/viewers/webs etc.
zerowalker
7th November 2013, 00:47
Yeah x265, read that myself which is why i was interested as Webp uses VP8, HEVC should be possible.

Hmm, well i donīt really care for overall support.

The thing i want is Good desktop support, which should be the least problem.
Webp works nicely, though i donīt get certain information like dimensions in properties, neither can i set it as desktop background.
If it works like .png .jpeg or whatever on Desktop and can easily be added (like video codecs), than thatīs fine by me.

Well if there is a way to use it for Images now, and i can watch them without problems, and the decoder/encoder is stable (no update will break bitstream), than that would be great.

But will probably come after the Video part is more in the Mainstream, but i hope for some development, as i donīt think it should be that hard, as itīs the same codec, just some "tweaking" to get it picture friendly i guess.
pieter3d
7th November 2013, 07:44
HEVC Main Still Picture can also be lossless, by using the transquant_bypass feature.