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DorianDiaconu
9th August 2013, 11:57
Hello guys!
My name is Dorian. I'm `new` in this whole thing, even though I was at least average. I asked on one forum some days ago for assistence regarding a damaged video and I realised that I know NOTHING.
I used to work in Vegas/Virtual Dub with already created filters, but apparently I applied them wrong, but even worse, I am not sure what they actually do.
Is there a place where I can begin studying the whole video thing from the scartch?I think the basic of photography might be useful (leves, contrast, exposure, etc).
Some links would be very helpful. Thanks a bunch! :D
feisty2
9th August 2013, 14:13
maybe you can start with posting your questions in "newbies" section
DorianDiaconu
9th August 2013, 14:17
maybe you can start with posting your questions in "newbies" section
As long as I'm asking also about avisynth, I think not. Don't be offtopic my friend.
Guest
9th August 2013, 14:32
This is indeed a typical newbie post and so it has been moved to Newbies.
My suggestion: Start your research on video using Google. Then you may ask more specific questions here.
LoRd_MuldeR
9th August 2013, 14:38
If you want to learn about Avisynth usage, you should start here:
* http://avisynth.nl/index.php/Main_Page#Usage
* http://neuron2.net/www.math.berkeley.edu/benrg/avisynth-tutorial.html
DorianDiaconu
9th August 2013, 14:56
If you want to learn about Avisynth usage, you should start here:
* http://avisynth.nl/index.php/Main_Page#Usage
* http://neuron2.net/www.math.berkeley.edu/benrg/avisynth-tutorial.html
I know most of the scripts and what they are for.
I just can't figure out how to work out the problems.
Ghitulescu
9th August 2013, 15:01
I just can't figure out how to work out the problems.
Then you have to diagnose the problems.
You have to study your video, and try to see what defects it has. Once a defect is know, its remedy is much simpler. Google can help you, too.
In complicated cases, surely a snippet from your video can be uploaded somewhere and linked in a specific topic (like "How to correct this ghosting?").
DorianDiaconu
9th August 2013, 15:05
Then you have to diagnose the problems.
You have to study your video, and try to see what defects it has. Once a defect is know, its remedy is much simpler. Google can help you, too.
In complicated cases, surely a snippet from your video can be uploaded somewhere and linked in a specific topic (like "How to correct this ghosting?").
Well this is the catch. I came across to a officially released DVD sourced from a DAMAGED VHS. Worse than that, it's progressive. It has retarded hallos/ghosting and broken levels. I have no idea how to fix this things, because they're not the `everyday` errors you find in videos. That's why I wanted to study more in-depth everything from the scratch.
Guest
9th August 2013, 15:48
Specifically, what is the title of this DVD and where did you "come across" it?
DorianDiaconu
9th August 2013, 20:39
The DVD is "Michael Jackson: Live At Wembley (1988)" released last year by the MJJ Estate in collaboration with Optimum Productions.
The DVD itself is sourced from a old VHS tape that looks horrible. It was "remastered" by a group of guys that didn't do a good job in my opinion. (too much DNR and exposure mistakes)
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k617/DorianDiaconu/vlcsnap-2013-08-07-21h00m51s151_zpsb0490f8f.png (http://s1118.photobucket.com/user/DorianDiaconu/media/vlcsnap-2013-08-07-21h00m51s151_zpsb0490f8f.png.html)
The bonus features are sourced (my thoughts) from a VHS tape that leaked on the internet some years ago. The original leaked file was interlaced 29 fps. The one they released is progressive 29 fps. (wtf?)
Here are some comparison screens:
1. From "The One" DVD released in the '90s (said to be sourced from the masters of the concert) - only some short snippets available.
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k617/DorianDiaconu/YH_zpsfc01defe.png (http://s1118.photobucket.com/user/DorianDiaconu/media/YH_zpsfc01defe.png.html)
2. From the leaked version. (interlaced material)
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k617/DorianDiaconu/vlcsnap-2013-08-07-09h27m45s87_zps5719ecc2.png (http://s1118.photobucket.com/user/DorianDiaconu/media/vlcsnap-2013-08-07-09h27m45s87_zps5719ecc2.png.html)
3. From the released version. (progressive)
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k617/DorianDiaconu/vlcsnap-2013-08-07-09h12m44s198_zpsf242bc45.png (http://s1118.photobucket.com/user/DorianDiaconu/media/vlcsnap-2013-08-07-09h12m44s198_zpsf242bc45.png.html)
This is my take on the third version. (Noise Reduction, deblocking, deflickering, some minor color corection with gradation curves and removed one of the ghosts)
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k617/DorianDiaconu/1_zpsade7f59e.png (http://s1118.photobucket.com/user/DorianDiaconu/media/1_zpsade7f59e.png.html)
Guest
9th August 2013, 21:22
OK, so did you have a specific question about it?
DorianDiaconu
9th August 2013, 21:37
A friend said that the levels are not right, but told me to research for the result.
There are some ghosts in the video that I can't remove I gave up on that already.
There's a weird spot of color on Michael's face that I can't remove, because I can't get the mask right (yet).
Is there any advice you can give me regarding the restoration of this?
Snippet: https://mega.co.nz/#!Ztwz3baL!fpnX83RO5I-TuZcmj756wBZbOWl3jGlqyd6RMfUtdqg
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