BD-RB Processing 720x480i VC-1 extras?

[setarip_old]

I've hit a snag while using BD-RB to compress the Blu-ray of "Sphere" (1998 Dustin Hoffman, Sharon Stone, Samuel L. Jackson):

The primary movie (00013.M2TS) is VC-1 1920x1080 - and presents no problem for conversion to .M2TS.

The format of the extras (00016.M2TS) is VC-1 720x480i - and generates an h264 error.

Is there a specific setting or a workaround that will overcome this problem?

[Guest]

The format of the extras (00016.M2TS) is VC-1 720x480i - and generates an h264 error. Can you tell us about the error?

[setarip_old]

@neuron2

Hi! AppData\Local\Temp\WER1615.tmp.version.txt
AppData\Local\Temp\WER2552.tmp.appcompat.txt
AppData\Local\Temp\WER25FF.tmp.mdmp That's all she wrote ;>}

[Guest]

Hmmm. What printed that out and makes you say that is an error?

[setarip_old]

@neuron2

Don,

When BD-RB aborts because it's apparently not been able to convert the 720x480i VC-1 .M2TS to H.264 (at any resolution and framerate) , it generates two simultaneous MS Windows-captioned error messages. The first one states (in part) that "H.264 (MPEG-4 AVC) encoder has stopped working", while the second one states (in part) "View details" accompanied by a down arrow. Clicking on the down arrow brought rise to the mysterious (to me) AppData\Local\Temp\WER1615.tmp.version.txt
AppData\Local\Temp\WER2552.tmp.appcompat.txt
AppData\Local\Temp\WER25FF.tmp.mdmp BTW - Good to hear from you ;>}

[setarip_old]

I recall that QUITE some time ago, the problem of INTERLACED VC-1 was posted about and, IIRC, a solution was rendered. Unfortunately, I've thusfar been unable to locate that information...

[jdobbs]

Can you post your log? There has been issues with VC-1 interlaced sources in the past (I saw it in an extra on "Band of Brothers"). It's specific to those that are field based. I found that converting the .VC1 file to an MKV before encoding fixes it -- so BD-RB scans the .VC1 file to look for that indicator and does an automatic MKV conversion before encoding. If I remember correctly I think it was a bug in HAALI and is related to DirectshowSource, but it's been a while and I'm not positive.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

I believe the following is a complete log: ----------------------
[05/18/13] BD Rebuilder v0.44.06 (beta)
[09:35:38] Source: SPHERE
- Input BD size: 27.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:34:57.413]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- Quality: Better (Faster), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[09:35:38] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:35:38] Processing: VID_00009 (1 of 9)
- [09:35:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [09:35:43] Reencoding video [VID_00009]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 286 frames
- Bitrate: 1,170 Kbs
- [09:35:43] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:35:58] Video Encode complete
- [09:35:58] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [09:35:58] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:36:02] Processing: VID_00010 (2 of 9)
- [09:36:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [09:36:06] Reencoding video [VID_00010]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 558 frames
- Bitrate: 1,378 Kbs
- [09:36:07] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:36:27] Video Encode complete
- [09:36:27] Processing audio tracks
- [09:36:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:36:31] Processing: VID_00011 (3 of 9)
- [09:36:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [09:36:36] Reencoding video [VID_00011]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 720 frames
- Bitrate: 1,388 Kbs
- [09:36:36] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:36:58] Video Encode complete
- [09:36:58] Processing audio tracks
- [09:36:58] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:37:02] Processing: VID_00013 (4 of 9)
- [09:37:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [09:45:31] Reencoding video [VID_00013]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 193,075 frames
- Bitrate: 6,488 Kbs
- [09:45:31] Reencoding: VID_00013, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:11:09] Video Encode complete
- [14:11:10] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original core audio
- Track 4354 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [14:11:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:17:10] Processing: VID_00016 (5 of 9)
- [14:17:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [14:17:24] Reencoding video [VID_00016]
- Source Video: VC-1, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 26,281 frames
- Bitrate: 634 Kbs
- [14:17:24] Reencoding: VID_00016, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.44.06 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3133, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libmpeg2": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[14:36:35] - Failed video encode, aborted

BTW:Respectfully,discussion of "which versions" of supporting tools/programs is not applicable to this thread - and Jerry, I'd be glad to discuss that further, if necessary or desirable ;>} [/Color]

[setarip_old]

I found that converting the .VC1 file to an MKV before encoding fixes it

Yes, that works, Jerry, but from what I can figure, that only works on single files. The "Sphere" disc contains one VC-1 file for the entire movie at 1920x1080 that BD-RB processes normally and without error - but there are an approximate dozen additional files (extras, etc.) that are VC-1 720x480i. (Admittedly, only one or two appear to be significant extras, but I'm sure you'd want to fix it properly, so that the entire disc can be processed as a full Blu-ray disc [menus, extras] etc. by BD-RB)

[Guest]

As far as I know DGDecNV handles interlaced VC-1 correctly. Have you tried that with BDRB?

[setarip_old]

Sorry, I've never purchased, don't own and don't possess DGDecNV...

[jdobbs]

Yes, that works, Jerry, but from what I can figure, that only works on single files. The "Sphere" disc contains one VC-1 file for the entire movie at 1920x1080 that BD-RB processes normally and without error - but there are an approximate dozen additional files (extras, etc.) that are VC-1 720x480i. (Admittedly, only one or two appear to be significant extras, but I'm sure you'd want to fix it properly, so that the entire disc can be processed as a full Blu-ray disc [menus, extras] etc. by BD-RB) Try running it without LAVF set (using the default DirectShowSource source). It could be that I've missed the MKV conversion when the LAVF flag is set. Again, it's been a long time, but I seem to vaguely remember (right or wrong) that LAV doesn't support interlaced VC1 or has issues with fields... I know I tried it back when I was looking for a solution to this (and ended up using MKV conversion).

The 1080 source is progressive.

It really doesn't matter how many there are -- BD-RB should do the MKV conversion on them individually as a part of the encode process. You will see "Converting field-based or secondary stream" show in the information window when it is happening.

[setarip_old]

Try running it without LAVF set (using the default DirectShowSource source). It could be that I've missed the MKV conversion when the LAVF flag is set.Nope, the primary movie (VC-1 NOT interlaced) generates an immediate error if I don't select LAVF (and, therefore, use the Default Direct Show Source).

And if I DO run it with LAVF, the primary movie (VC-1 NOT interlaced) is encoded properly, but BD-RB then IMMEDIATELY errors out when it gets to the VC-1 INTERLACED 720x480 extras.

Perhaps you'll come upon the "Sphere" Blu-ray and possibly resolve this. If not, life goes on ;>} I don't know if I've ever seen another Blu-ray that has both progressive VC-1 files and interlaced VC-1 files on the same disc...

[gonca]

@setarip_old
I am re-encoding my copy of the movie Sphere, while trying to use your settings. Using directshow which is presently doing the main movie. Will try lavf later.

[gonca]

@setarip_old
Sphere went fine with directshow

[05/20/13] BD Rebuilder v0.44.06 (beta)
[21:24:30] Source: SPHERE
- Input BD size: 27.78 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:34:57.413]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: Better (Faster), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[21:24:30] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:24:30] Processing: VID_00009 (1 of 9)
- [21:24:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [21:24:33] Reencoding video [VID_00009]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 286 frames
- Bitrate: 1,172 Kbs
- [21:24:33] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:24:37] Video Encode complete
- [21:24:37] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [21:24:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:24:54] Processing: VID_00010 (2 of 9)
- [21:24:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [21:24:58] Reencoding video [VID_00010]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 558 frames
- Bitrate: 1,380 Kbs
- [21:24:58] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:25:02] Video Encode complete
- [21:25:02] Processing audio tracks
- [21:25:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:25:06] Processing: VID_00011 (3 of 9)
- [21:25:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [21:25:09] Reencoding video [VID_00011]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 720 frames
- Bitrate: 1,390 Kbs
- [21:25:09] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:25:14] Video Encode complete
- [21:25:14] Processing audio tracks
- [21:25:14] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:25:18] Processing: VID_00013 (4 of 9)
- [21:25:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [21:27:15] Reencoding video [VID_00013]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 193,075 frames
- Bitrate: 6,648 Kbs
- [21:27:15] Reencoding: VID_00013, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:13:23] Video Encode complete
- [22:13:23] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original core audio
- [22:13:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:14:06] Processing: VID_00016 (5 of 9)
- [22:14:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [22:14:12] Reencoding video [VID_00016]
- Source Video: VC-1, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 26,281 frames
- Bitrate: 1,364 Kbs
- [22:14:12] Reencoding: VID_00016, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:16:03] Video Encode complete
- [22:16:03] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [22:16:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:16:07] Processing: VID_00017 (6 of 9)
- [22:16:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [22:16:11] Reencoding video [VID_00017]
- Source Video: VC-1, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 4,231 frames
- Bitrate: 857 Kbs
- [22:16:11] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:16:28] Video Encode complete
- [22:16:28] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [22:16:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:16:31] Processing: VID_00019 (7 of 9)
- [22:16:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- [22:16:35] Reencoding video [VID_00019]
- Source Video: VC-1, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 961 frames
- Bitrate: 1,371 Kbs
- [22:16:35] Reencoding: VID_00019, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:16:39] Video Encode complete
- [22:16:39] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [22:16:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:16:43] Processing: VID_00020 (8 of 9)
- [22:16:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
- [22:16:47] Reencoding video [VID_00020]
- Source Video: VC-1, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 961 frames
- Bitrate: 1,452 Kbs
- [22:16:47] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:16:51] Video Encode complete
- [22:16:51] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [22:16:51] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:16:55] Processing: VID_00021 (9 of 9)
- [22:16:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [22:16:58] Reencoding video [VID_00021]
- Source Video: VC-1, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,891 frames
- Bitrate: 1,390 Kbs
- [22:16:58] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:17:07] Video Encode complete
- [22:17:07] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [22:17:07] Multiplexing M2TS
[22:17:10]PHASE ONE complete
[22:17:10]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [22:17:10] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[22:17:11] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[22:17:11] JOB: SPHERE finished.

[jdobbs]

Nope, the primary movie (VC-1 NOT interlaced) generates an immediate error if I don't select LAVF (and, therefore, use the Default Direct Show Source).

And if I DO run it with LAVF, the primary movie (VC-1 NOT interlaced) is encoded properly, but BD-RB then IMMEDIATELY errors out when it gets to the VC-1 INTERLACED 720x480 extras.

Perhaps you'll come upon the "Sphere" Blu-ray and possibly resolve this. If not, life goes on ;>} I don't know if I've ever seen another Blu-ray that has both progressive VC-1 files and interlaced VC-1 files on the same disc... Try reinstalling FFDSHOW. It sounds like something else may have intercepted VC-1 decoding.

[setarip_old]

@gonca, @jdobbs

Thank you both for your insight - you "gonca" for making the effort to duplicate my problem and you, "jdobbs" for hitting the nail on the head. Uninstalling and reinstalling FFDShow (and the Haali/Matroska splitter) resolved my issue.

Again, thank you ;>}