morphinapg
2nd May 2013, 06:22
I recently edited together 5 movies by capturing gameplay of each Assassin's Creed game, and editing them into movies. The games were quite long, so these movies averaged about 3 hours each. Here's a link to check them out on youtube if you want. (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMB_lYcuWDU3W4wKB1Z1rze5U0eQrF9VD)
Anyway, I decided I wanted to fit all 5 movies on a BD50 disc. Each movie was 720p, and the original encodes I made were small enough to fit on a single BD50 disc at CRF20. I encoded them using these Blu-ray compliant settings in x264 using megui:
--level 4.1 --bluray-compat --tune film --crf 20.0 --open-gop --b-pyramid none --no-weightb --weightp 0 --slices 4 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --vbv-maxrate 30000 --colorprim bt709 --transfer bt709 --colormatrix bt709 --output "output" "input"
I had used these settings before to encode multiple Blu-rays in the past, both in 720p and 1080p, so I know they work. I authored my disc and burned my BD50 today, and 4/5 of the movies play fine, but the last one doesn't. I'm fairly certain that all 5 were encoded with exactly the same settings, yet the fifth movie doesn't play on my PS3. Plays fine in PowerDVD on my PC, but on my PS3 all I hear is audio. I can tell the chapters work though, because I can hear the audio cutting to the correct chapter points.
The only significant things about the fifth movie is that it had the longest length (251 mins) and the smallest video bitrate (5247kbps), although remember, all were encoded with crf20. The movie with the next highest length is 189 mins, and the movie with the next lowest bitrate is 5462kbps. Both work just fine in the ps3. Could either of these be a factor?
Here is the mediainfo for the m2ts file for the movie that won't play:
General
ID : 1 (0x1)
Complete name : C:\ACMovies\Blu\Assassin's Creed\BDMV\STREAM\00005.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 10.1 GiB
Duration : 4h 11mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 5 739 Kbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps
Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 4h 11mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 5 247 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 30.0 Mbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.237
Stream size : 9.23 GiB (91%)
Writing library : x264 core 130 r2273 b3065e6
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:-1:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.15 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=6 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / slices=4 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=1 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=0 / open_gop=1 / weightp=0 / keyint=24 / keyint_min=1 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=24 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=20.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=30000 / vbv_bufsize=30000 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=vbr / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 4h 11mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 256 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 461 MiB (4%)
Language : English
For comparison, here is the mediainfo for another movie, which works completely fine:
General
ID : 1 (0x1)
Complete name : C:\ACMovies\Blu\Assassin's Creed\BDMV\STREAM\00003.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 9.90 GiB
Duration : 2h 47mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 8 483 Kbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps
Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 2h 47mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 7 882 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 30.0 Mbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.357
Stream size : 9.20 GiB (93%)
Writing library : x264 core 130 r2273 b3065e6
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:-1:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.15 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=6 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / slices=4 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=1 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=0 / open_gop=1 / weightp=0 / keyint=24 / keyint_min=1 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=24 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=20.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=30000 / vbv_bufsize=30000 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=vbr / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 2h 47mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 256 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 306 MiB (3%)
Language : English
I tested burning a BDRE with just this movie on it, had the same problem.
Is it possible this is a PS3 specific bug? I know it worked on my PC's Blu-ray player, but perhaps since that's also a generic media player, maybe it can support files that aren't exactly perfect, using the PC's codecs and stuff? I don't have any other Blu-ray players to test it on atm.
Anybody have any ideas what could be causing this?
Anyway, I decided I wanted to fit all 5 movies on a BD50 disc. Each movie was 720p, and the original encodes I made were small enough to fit on a single BD50 disc at CRF20. I encoded them using these Blu-ray compliant settings in x264 using megui:
--level 4.1 --bluray-compat --tune film --crf 20.0 --open-gop --b-pyramid none --no-weightb --weightp 0 --slices 4 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --vbv-maxrate 30000 --colorprim bt709 --transfer bt709 --colormatrix bt709 --output "output" "input"
I had used these settings before to encode multiple Blu-rays in the past, both in 720p and 1080p, so I know they work. I authored my disc and burned my BD50 today, and 4/5 of the movies play fine, but the last one doesn't. I'm fairly certain that all 5 were encoded with exactly the same settings, yet the fifth movie doesn't play on my PS3. Plays fine in PowerDVD on my PC, but on my PS3 all I hear is audio. I can tell the chapters work though, because I can hear the audio cutting to the correct chapter points.
The only significant things about the fifth movie is that it had the longest length (251 mins) and the smallest video bitrate (5247kbps), although remember, all were encoded with crf20. The movie with the next highest length is 189 mins, and the movie with the next lowest bitrate is 5462kbps. Both work just fine in the ps3. Could either of these be a factor?
Here is the mediainfo for the m2ts file for the movie that won't play:
General
ID : 1 (0x1)
Complete name : C:\ACMovies\Blu\Assassin's Creed\BDMV\STREAM\00005.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 10.1 GiB
Duration : 4h 11mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 5 739 Kbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps
Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 4h 11mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 5 247 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 30.0 Mbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.237
Stream size : 9.23 GiB (91%)
Writing library : x264 core 130 r2273 b3065e6
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:-1:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.15 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=6 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / slices=4 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=1 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=0 / open_gop=1 / weightp=0 / keyint=24 / keyint_min=1 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=24 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=20.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=30000 / vbv_bufsize=30000 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=vbr / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 4h 11mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 256 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 461 MiB (4%)
Language : English
For comparison, here is the mediainfo for another movie, which works completely fine:
General
ID : 1 (0x1)
Complete name : C:\ACMovies\Blu\Assassin's Creed\BDMV\STREAM\00003.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 9.90 GiB
Duration : 2h 47mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 8 483 Kbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps
Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 2h 47mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 7 882 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 30.0 Mbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.357
Stream size : 9.20 GiB (93%)
Writing library : x264 core 130 r2273 b3065e6
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:-1:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.15 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=6 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / slices=4 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=1 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=0 / open_gop=1 / weightp=0 / keyint=24 / keyint_min=1 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=24 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=20.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=30000 / vbv_bufsize=30000 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=vbr / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 2h 47mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 256 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 306 MiB (3%)
Language : English
I tested burning a BDRE with just this movie on it, had the same problem.
Is it possible this is a PS3 specific bug? I know it worked on my PC's Blu-ray player, but perhaps since that's also a generic media player, maybe it can support files that aren't exactly perfect, using the PC's codecs and stuff? I don't have any other Blu-ray players to test it on atm.
Anybody have any ideas what could be causing this?