Log in

View Full Version : Lossless Import (Premiere CS6)


vanden
3rd April 2013, 16:26
Hello,

I try to make a video montage in Premiere CS6.
Unable to import files lossless !
I tested x264 (q = 0) in raw/m2ts and mkv : impossible ...
I tested virtualbub Avi (Uncompressed RGB/YCbCr) and (Huffyuv v2.1.1) : Same ...

What lossless encoder use to import in the Premiere CS6 ??

bigotti5
3rd April 2013, 18:04
Uncompressed RGB/YCbCr and Huffyuv v2.1.1 are working fine here in CS6
x264 lossless not tested

LoRd_MuldeR
3rd April 2013, 18:39
For HuffYUV you'll probably need the suitable VFW Codec (assuming Premiere uses VFW to decompress AVI files).

Lossless x264 probably doesn't work, because the built-in H.264 decoder of Premiere doesn't support the way how x264 stores "lossless" streams.

(Too my understanding, x264's implementation of "lossless" mode uses a rather "exotic" feature of the H.264 standard that is rarely support in H.264 decoders other than libavcodec)

vanden
3rd April 2013, 22:26
For HuffYUV you'll probably need the suitable VFW Codec (assuming Premiere uses VFW to decompress AVI files).

Haa !! YES !

Thanks !

Overdrive80
4th April 2013, 02:08
You have other option that transcoding to huffYUV/lagarith.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=133313&highlight=pismo

You create avs file, for mpeg2 file (for example):

DGDecode_mpeg2source("xxx.d2v", info=3)

ColorMatrix(hints=true, threads=0)

Converttorgb24()

Converttorgb24() is necessary.

After install pismo (http://www.pismotechnic.com/download/), right button of mouse and select "quick mount" and will create a folder with .avi file for importing on premiere.

If you prefer transcoding to lossless file, lagarith is totally supported for Premiere.

vivan
4th April 2013, 02:31
Lossless x264 probably doesn't work, because the built-in H.264 decoder of Premiere doesn't support the way how x264 stores "lossless" streams.

(Too my understanding, x264's implementation of "lossless" mode uses a rather "exotic" feature of the H.264 standard that is rarely support in H.264 decoders other than libavcodec)Well, it's not just about features - it's whole different profile (High 4:4:4 Predictive).

Btw it's still possible to open such files in NLEs - using avs script in dummy avi (MakeAVIS from ffdshow). Though I can't recommend this - since lossless H.264 is not as fast as other lossless codecs like UT video...
P.s. oh, looks like that pismo thing is basically the same thing...

kolak
13th April 2013, 12:06
Hello,

I try to make a video montage in Premiere CS6.
Unable to import files lossless !
I tested x264 (q = 0) in raw/m2ts and mkv : impossible ...
I tested virtualbub Avi (Uncompressed RGB/YCbCr) and (Huffyuv v2.1.1) : Same ...

What lossless encoder use to import in the Premiere CS6 ??

RGB does not work?- hard to believe!
UYVY, YUY2, v210 does not work- no way :)
Are you setting proper format for output in Color Depth tab? Are you using latest Vdub (1.9.11)?