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basicam
3rd April 2013, 13:27
I was wondering if staxrip, or something else similar can be used to cheaply mux two video streams for making 3D movies, (not just the soundtracks). I have previously used Matroska containers to make normal 2D home videos on a USB memory playable on a HD TV directly, but i've not done any good (successful) major conversions of my videos. Un-synchronised interlaced SD PAL video does not well turn into watchable 3D, (except by using 2 analogue tv's side by side).

If anyone can offer budget oriented suggestions and improvements to cheap dodgy home 3D video setups and processing, please do so, I'm all ears & eyes. I'm looking for small head mountable HD cameras, going into separate recorders, with 30 - 60fps, 720p or 1080p, at least shower / dust proof, if not ~1m or more waterproof.
I've looked at Vio, Rad20 HD, GoPro, & numerous substandard similar units & handycams, but all have disappointed.

Does anyone here know of other small (not Go Pro) POV useable cameras with sync/gen lock available, (and possibly with audio in). I was ready to buy a pair of VIO POV HD's to make 3D HD videos, but knowing about 3D sync problems (or lack of sync / genlock), - I'm still looking for a useful camera, or sync, genlock answer for helmet cams and handicams, as are other budgeting 3D videoers.

Also: can someone invent an induction coil based genlock system to stick to the outside of the waterproof cabinets of hermetically sealed recording units. - A circuit and coil slipped inside cabinet, wired up and sealed; similar coils velcro'd to outside, to sync 2 or more cameras via an oscillator circuit, powered by 12v in a small sealed waterproof box. Just a thought.

I have posted on other forums for similar info, with little result, so I thought the vareity of doom9 people may be able to help. Basicam. :D

IanB
7th April 2013, 22:49
If you need to invent a genlock out/into a waterproof cabinet maybe you could use optical instead of induction.

basicam
4th May 2013, 16:23
That's a top idea Ian,
all possible signals would fit in that huge band: main oscillator, VITC, LTC, and genlock signal, and even matching chip section's settings could be communicated, to be in total sync, if you could pick them up and opticalise them without causing new problems (re. new internal RF interferences). And size and budget constraints. Minimising corrosion & leakage; can plug-unplug hot with no signal short or spike.

I just need a billionaire to "make it so". Most camera cabinets won't have much spare room for much extra hardware.

Another of my recent thoughts for syncing 2 cameras, is simple quick image recognition software between the feeds direct from the two image chips, connected to the two main oscillators, then skipping or modifying short phase sections of either or both cameras, to keep both exactly in phase, and synchronisation.

Thanks for the input.