Do I need Azid's gain max or auto gain with -ota(-g max) in BeSweet?

[oddball]

I'm a little confused. Do I need either of those selected in the Azid settings when -ota(-g max) is used? I have Dynamic Compression normal and Gain max (No auto gain) selected at present.

[DSPguru]

dynamic compression is a standalone feature.
if BeSweet see -azid( -g max ) AND -ota( -g max ) , it executes the -ota( -g max ) engine (smart normalizer).
-azid( -g max ) will usually find lower gain values than -ota( -g max ).

[oddball]

Is it preferable to leave Dynamic Compression off or on?

[user]

"if BeSweet see -azid( -g max ) AND -ota( -g max ) , it executes the -ota( -g max ) engine (smart normalizer).
-azid( -g max ) will usually find lower gain values than -ota( -g max )."

Hi,

is this the reason why sound has often a quite silent volume, if converted with azid and so on ?

I have not tried ota yet.

Do you recommend it over maximizing with azid ?

Has ota only influence to max gain ?
Or does it dynamic range compression, too ?
Or is still azid normal dynamic range recommended ?

[N_F]

Originally posted by DSPguru
if BeSweet see -azid( -g max ) AND -ota( -g max ) , it executes the -ota( -g max ) engine (smart normalizer).
-azid( -g max ) will usually find lower gain values than -ota( -g max ).

Is this still the case? Can you recommend one over the other?

[DSPguru]

-azid( -g max ) is faster,
-ota( -g max ) has clips smoother for better quality.
no compression involved.

@N_F
i believe you're a GKnot user, ain't you ?
GKnot is using -ota( -G max ) , this is one-pass normalization (it's the fastest).

[pacohaas]

Originally posted by DSPguru
-azid( -g max ) is faster,

-ota( -g max ) has clips smoother for better quality.

no compression involved.

so if we wanted better quality(speed doesn't matter), it would be better to use -azid( -c normal ) -ota( -g max ) instead of -azid( -c normal -g max )? and i'm not at home right now, but i would assume also that -azid( -c normal ) -ota( -g 6db ) would work instead of -azid( -c normal -g 6db )?

[DSPguru]

in most cases, you won't meet overflows after finding maximal gain, so ota isn't better.
for a constant value i would go on ota.

[N_F]

Originally posted by DSPguru
-azid( -g max ) is faster,
-ota( -g max ) has clips smoother for better quality.
no compression involved.

@N_F
i believe you're a GKnot user, ain't you ?
GKnot is using -ota( -G max ) , this is one-pass normalization (it's the fastest).

Yes, I use GKnot, but only for creating the .avs file. I do all the encoding with Besweet/VirtualDub/Nandub.

So the difference is hardly noticable between -azid( -g max ) and -ota( -g max ) I assume...

[DSPguru]

Originally posted by N_F
So the difference is hardly noticable between -azid( -g max ) and -ota( -g max ) I assume... yes, but you're invited to judge for yourself.