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R=G
20th October 2012, 01:49
What's a good software for making good quality Xvid AVIs? I use Megui but sometimes it ends up out of sync and I have no idea how to correct that and mux a proper version.

Groucho2004
20th October 2012, 02:00
VirtualDub

R=G
20th October 2012, 02:31
Yeah. I figured you would say that. LOL. I wouldn't even know how to line up the VOBs in that with it synching the audio correctly. And for some reason, the compression test of Virtual Dub is running disgustingly slow when used.

Groucho2004
20th October 2012, 03:05
Yeah. I figured you would say that. LOL. I wouldn't even know how to line up the VOBs in that with it synching the audio correctly. And for some reason, the compression test of Virtual Dub is running disgustingly slow when used.

Looks like you do need to use a GUI that does everything for you. Have you considered posting your problem in the Megui bug report thread? From what I've seen they're quite helpful there.

Przemek_Sperling
20th October 2012, 06:58
Try avi.NET and XviD4PSP 5.0 (contrary to it's name it works very goog not only with PSP)

Chetwood
20th October 2012, 07:09
Wrong question. Right question: what's a good alternative to AVI these days? MKV+h.264 ;)

kalehrl
20th October 2012, 08:52
What makes you think AutoGK is useless today?
It works fine today as it did years ago.

Sparktank
20th October 2012, 14:30
VOBs

If you're doing DVD conversions, try MakeMKV. It will remux the movie to MKV without converting. MakeMKV is free while in beta.

Or if you want to convert, there's always FairUse Wizard. FUW has a free version, but it's not as great as the paid version.

setarip_old
20th October 2012, 14:47
@R=G

Hi!

I'd suggest to you that AutoGK is as useful as it's always been...

R=G
21st October 2012, 02:25
Looks like you do need to use a GUI that does everything for you. Have you considered posting your problem in the Megui bug report thread? From what I've seen they're quite helpful there.

I'll try out...I use Megui too as well Ripbot and Vidcoder. I often can get good results from MKVS with Megui but MP4s come out of synch all too much for my taste. The AVIs I make do the same thing..it's hit and miss. And I'm not schooled on the art of encoding audio and video on it's own in Megui so I always use the AVISynth method after the indexer is done.

What makes you think AutoGK is useless today?
It works fine today as it did years ago.

Something is wrong with mine. After backing up SEVERAL DVDs since late 2008 with AutoGk, all of a sudden last year, when it got to the "compressionability test" portion of the process, it would not budge. It wouldn't progress. Tried it over and over again. It's been useless. Uninstalled and reinstalled the 2.55 and still comes to an halt at the compression test after the job runs. Irritating.

@R=G

Hi!

I'd suggest to you that AutoGK is as useful as it's always been...

I wish that was true, my friend. But it's come to a standstill for me oddly.

CWR03
21st October 2012, 07:25
Something is wrong with mine. After backing up SEVERAL DVDs since late 2008 with AutoGk, all of a sudden last year, when it got to the "compressionability test" portion of the process, it would not budge. It wouldn't progress. Tried it over and over again. It's been useless. Uninstalled and reinstalled the 2.55 and still comes to an halt at the compression test after the job runs. Irritating.
It's a problem on your end. Your inability to correct the problem has no bearing on the usefulness of AutoGK.

I often can get good results from MKVS with Megui but MP4s come out of synch all too much for my taste.
That's also a problem on your end. A ripped DVD that has been processed correctly will not have synch issues when re-encoded. I've had some synch issues with MP4 playback, but only on certain players so I know it has nothing to do with the ripping/encoding process.

R=G
21st October 2012, 08:37
It's a problem on your end. Your inability to correct the problem has no bearing on the usefulness of AutoGK.


That's also a problem on your end. A ripped DVD that has been processed correctly will not have synch issues when re-encoded. I've had some synch issues with MP4 playback, but only on certain players so I know it has nothing to do with the ripping/encoding process.

Interesting. I've encoded hundreds of DVDs with Vidcoder over the last year after ripping with DVD Shrink or DVD Fab 8 with no synch issues or any compression drawbacks yet AutoGK alone is stuck at a certain point. I've encoded far too many DVDs for 4 years for all of a sudden a magical error to come out of nowhere on my end out of thin air. I backed up my entire collection with AutoGK at one point. As for Megui and MP4 audio issues? There are MANY that have reported that over the years. That's nothing new.

The only reliable encoder I have at my disposal is Vidcoder and Megui 2050....it works on the MKV front but I like I said, I'm no expert on encoding audio and video separately and then muxing like everyone else. So that is what it is. What gets the job done gets the job done, anything else I consider useless. Ripbot is legit too but takes longer than Vidcoder.

Sparktank
21st October 2012, 20:05
The only problems I've encountered with AutoGK is when I installed something else.
Other encoding programs like to install their codecs and AviSynth versions without you having any full control over it and it will ruin the overall environment for encoding with certain programs. Mostly, it's the registering of new (usually outdated) codecs.

Even updating any of the internal libraries of AutoGK can cause problems. Most of them are personally coded to work specifically with AGK, so any updates would need to be compiled from source, IIRC. I remember reading something distinctly about compatibility issues with updating the internal libraries.

Also, if you added any DLL's to your AviSynth folder manually, they may be part of the cause. Deleting the extra libraries then re-installing AviSynth should fix that if that is, indeed, the problem.


Without thorough troubleshooting, this magical error will always be there.
As I responded in the other thread, try Codec Tweak Tool to run a Fix to repair any broken registry pointers.
Do a clean install of AviSynth, with no extra DLL's in the plug-in folder.
Make sure you don't update any of the internal files to AGK.

I remember when I used to use AGK, when I came across that problem, it was an AviSynth problem for me.

R=G
22nd October 2012, 22:53
The only problems I've encountered with AutoGK is when I installed something else.
Other encoding programs like to install their codecs and AviSynth versions without you having any full control over it and it will ruin the overall environment for encoding with certain programs. Mostly, it's the registering of new (usually outdated) codecs.

Even updating any of the internal libraries of AutoGK can cause problems. Most of them are personally coded to work specifically with AGK, so any updates would need to be compiled from source, IIRC. I remember reading something distinctly about compatibility issues with updating the internal libraries.

Also, if you added any DLL's to your AviSynth folder manually, they may be part of the cause. Deleting the extra libraries then re-installing AviSynth should fix that if that is, indeed, the problem.


Without thorough troubleshooting, this magical error will always be there.
As I responded in the other thread, try Codec Tweak Tool to run a Fix to repair any broken registry pointers.
Do a clean install of AviSynth, with no extra DLL's in the plug-in folder.
Make sure you don't update any of the internal files to AGK.

I remember when I used to use AGK, when I came across that problem, it was an AviSynth problem for me.


I used the Codec Tweak Tool and played with it. Still didn't get past the compressibility test. Thanks for the suggestion.