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batmeat
16th September 2012, 21:40
I'm sorry if this is posted elsewhere. I can't seem to find exactly what I'm looking for using the search tool. The results I find are over my head. I'm looking for a way to burn my Mkv files directly to blu ray without a loss in the audio streams. I don't really want to convert them to blu ray format then burn them. Direct burn is preferable. A bunch of my Mkv files have multiple audio streams for 5.1 and 7.1 surround sound. I don't want to lose that when I convert and burn to blu ray. Also, any guides that can be reccomended is appreciated.
I have found programs to convert, but all of them change the audio to 2 channel stereo.....not acceptable.
Forgot to add that i don't mind paying for software to do it.
blubb444
16th September 2012, 22:11
Well, if I understood you correctly, all you want to do is to write the files directly to disc without complying to any standard or HW compatibility etc., right? In that case, any burning program that can write Blu-Ray discs should do, maybe even the built-in one of Windows (might depend on your version, don't know if XP can do that but Vista/7 should). Personally I'm using this one: http://cdburnerxp.se/ (free) but of course you can also use other or proprietary programs for that.
batmeat
16th September 2012, 22:51
I don't want to create a data disk. I want to burn the Mkv file to blu ray and have it work in my blu ray player. The software would need to automatically convert the format so it's compatible with blu ray movie players.
Groucho2004
16th September 2012, 23:38
Without knowing what type of video and audio you have in your MKVs there's little help you can expect.
Blu ray has several restrictions for video and audio and you might have to re-encode the video to make it compatible.
blubb444
17th September 2012, 00:09
Well, in that case you'll probably have to (lossily!) re-encode, unless you know that both your video and audio streams are BD compliant. You can find a quick overview here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc#Software_standards According to that, up to 7.1 (8 channel) audio is supported in some formats. But there are still many more limitations, especially in the video stream (Bitrate, P-/B_frame, level, buffer size... limitations).
Maybe you could post a MediaInfo analysis of your file?
batmeat
17th September 2012, 01:34
General
Unique ID : 193124368531085645249917963404926090201 (0x914A6682DFEC15E6BC56D901D1D17BD9)
Complete name : C:\Users\Home\Desktop\The_Hunger_Games-2012-1080p.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
File size : 7.35 GiB
Duration : 2h 24mn
Overall bit rate : 7 308 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2012-08-04 17:08:18
Writing application : mkvmerge v3.2.0 ('Beginnings') built on Feb 12 2010 16:46:17
Writing library : libebml v0.7.9 + libmatroska v0.8.1
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2h 24mn
Bit rate : 5 812 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 800 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.158
Stream size : 5.69 GiB (77%)
Writing library : x264 core 125 r2200 999b753
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=6 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=60 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=5812 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=16000 / vbv_bufsize=2906 / nal_hrd=none / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
Audio
ID : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 2h 24mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 510 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 1.52 GiB (21%)
Title : DTS
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Text
ID : 3
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
Groucho2004
17th September 2012, 01:59
Use your original blu ray with BD-Rebuilder. :)
sneaker_ger
17th September 2012, 06:50
I'm not aware of any software that can directly burn MKV to Blu-Ray (but I don't know every software, so that doesn't mean much). Some people use tsMuxer first and then their favorite burning software (like ImgBurn), but as the others have already said, it's not 100% Blu-Ray compliant and might or might not work on a given Blu-Ray player, but in exchange it is lossless and fast. If you want 100% compatible Blu-Rays you have to re-eencode the video (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=154533) first. The audio does not have to be re-encoded, though, if it is compatible. (Like AC3 or your DTS track)
Ghitulescu
17th September 2012, 14:49
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 800 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=6 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=60 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=5812 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=16000 / vbv_bufsize=2906 / nal_hrd=none / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
As you can see, when you allegedly transformed your BDs into MKV you lost the BD compatibility.
IIRC, the hunger games is a BD50, that means some 30-40GB are reserved only for video. So your MKV already had suffered a lossy reencoding, and you'll have to reencode it again, for the reasons indicated in the quoted passages.
So use the advice given by Groucho2004 :)
batmeat
17th September 2012, 15:59
Hmm. So this file isnt blu ray compliant? I bought it via a digital download, so it's probably an illegal movie service. This is good to know.
Guest
17th September 2012, 16:56
Closed for rule 6.
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