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kingtmx
23rd July 2012, 16:14
i want to rip movies in 720p around 700mb to 1.5gb

movie run time is 2hr 30 min

how can i do

say correct avscript & x264 profile for doing it

i ripped using sharktooth (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=101813) custom profiles

say me which profile to use and what avscript should be added
source screen shot
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2927/vlcsnap2012072321h09m16.png


encoded screen shot
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3858/vlcsnap2012072321h04m56.png

avscript
used for above encoded video
#deinterlace
#crop
LanczosResize(1280,544) # Lanczos (Sharp)
LoadPlugin("C:\Users\king\Desktop\MEGUI\MEGUI king\tools\avisynth_plugin\Convolution3DYV12.dll")
Convolution3D("movielq") # Heavy Noise

x264 configuration for above encoded

program --level 3.1 --pass 2 --bitrate 849 --stats ".stats" --deblock -5:-5 --b-adapt 2 --ref 8 --qpmin 10 --qpmax 51 --vbv-bufsize 14000 --vbv-maxrate 17500 --me umh --direct auto --subme 6 --trellis 2 --output "output" "input"

i used this bit rate calculator setting

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4600/captureddd.jpg

please say the correct steps/setting which gives best output under 1gb in 720p

additionally if u have any best x264 profile which do this work provide link

plz replay

Groucho2004
23rd July 2012, 16:37
i want to rip movies in 720p in 700mb
You have to provide more info.

What format is your source?
Did I understand correctly, you want to create 720p videos with 700mb total size? Or 700mb movies from 720p source?
Why 700mb? Are you planning to burn them to a CD-R?

SassBot
23rd July 2012, 17:02
i want to rip movies in 720p in 700mb

how can i do

say correct avscript & x264 profile for doing it

It's as simple as telling x264 to use a bitrate value that ends up coming out at 700 MB based on the runtime length of the movie minus the size of your audio track, any subtitle tracks, and the muxing overhead of your container.

Atak_Snajpera
23rd July 2012, 17:03
Some people are still living in XVID era ;) Who these days encode to 700MB ??? No. WHO THESE DAYS STORES MOVIES ON CD when we have big portable usb hard-drives?

kingtmx
23rd July 2012, 17:18
source is BLURAYDISC 20gb WANT TO ENCODE TO 720P INBETWEEN 700MB TO 1.5 GB

Groucho2004
23rd July 2012, 17:23
Looks like you're seeking assistance with megui. You should post in the appropriate forum.

Also, have a look at forum rules 1 and 12 ("what's best").

Atak_Snajpera
23rd July 2012, 17:24
please say the correct steps/setting which gives best output under 1gb in 720p

additionally if u have any best x264 profile which do this work provide link
--preset placebo --tune film

Happy now?

SassBot
23rd July 2012, 17:25
source is BLURAYDISC 20gb WANT TO ENCODE TO 720P INBETWEEN 700MB TO 1.5 GB

Are you unable to do basic arithmetic? Take the final size you want and subtract the size of your audio tracks, subtitle tracks and any muxing overhead of your container and then with the space left determine what the bitrate is that gets you that size. You can do all this with a calculator. Why do you need our help?

kingtmx
23rd July 2012, 17:25
Not to do for cd i want to transfer to my pendrive it dose not has 20gb :(

Atak_Snajpera
23rd July 2012, 17:27
Not to do for cd i want to transfer to my pendrive it dose not has 20gb
so why magic 700mb then ????

Groucho2004
23rd July 2012, 17:27
--preset placebo --tune film
I think he should use "--preset magic" to sqeeze 2.5 hours @720p into < 1G.

Atak_Snajpera
23rd July 2012, 17:28
I think he should use "--preset magic" to sqeeze 2.5 hours @720p into < 1G.
Or wait few years for x265 ;)

kingtmx
23rd July 2012, 17:30
IF I DECREASE BIT-RATE quality gets very bad coming box box at fast movements u can see their face edges fully box box

Atak_Snajpera
23rd July 2012, 17:31
IF I DECREASE BIT-RATE quality gets very bad coming box box at fast movements u can see their face edges fully box box
What did you expect? lower bitrate and higher quality???

kingtmx
23rd July 2012, 17:32
ok not 700mb 1gb or 1.5gb any solution

SassBot
23rd July 2012, 17:33
IF I DECREASE BIT-RATE quality gets very bad coming box box at fast movements u can see their face edges fully box box

Other than stating the obvious, what was your point? Of course if you set the bitrate too low that the quality goes down. That's what happens with lossy encoding. Crank up your preset to something like veryslow if you want to help increase quality at a lower bitrate, but there will not be some magical setting to make any video look good at low bitrates.

kingtmx
23rd July 2012, 17:33
What did you expect? lower bitrate and higher quality???

ya excately

you are right

kingtmx
23rd July 2012, 17:36
Other than stating the obvious, what was your point? Of course if you set the bitrate too low that the quality goes down. That's what happens with lossy encoding. Crank up your preset to something like veryslow if you want to help increase quality at a lower bitrate, but there will not be some magical setting to make any video look good at low bitrates.

then ok can u create a x264 profile for me and give please

Atak_Snajpera
23rd July 2012, 17:37
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1584130#post1584130

SassBot
23rd July 2012, 17:38
then ok can u create a x264 profile for me and give please

Why do you need a profile? Just use --preset veryslow and --tune film.

kingtmx
23rd July 2012, 17:39
I think he should use "--preset magic" to sqeeze 2.5 hours @720p into < 1G.

were is this preset were can i get it

kingtmx
23rd July 2012, 17:40
Why do you need a profile? Just use --preset veryslow and --tune film.

thats it uh ????

SassBot
23rd July 2012, 17:41
were is this preset were can i get it

I think you missed that the post was being sarcastic.

thats it uh ????

Yes. What else did you need?

kingtmx
23rd July 2012, 17:44
Yes. What else did you need?

ok no avscripts need uh ???

SassBot
23rd July 2012, 17:47
ok no avscripts need uh ???

Without knowing anything about your source I have no clue what avisynth scipt you would need other than it having a source filter. There is no universal avisynth script that you can apply to all movies.

kingtmx
23rd July 2012, 17:50
Without knowing anything about your source I have no clue what avisynth scipt you would need other than it having a source filter. There is no universal avisynth script that you can apply to all movies


thats fine can u tell some best denosing filters names

kingtmx
23rd July 2012, 17:54
Without knowing anything about your source I have no clue what avisynth scipt you would need other than it having a source filter. There is no universal avisynth script that you can apply to all movies


thats fine can u tell some best denosing filters names

SassBot
23rd July 2012, 17:57
It's probably best to ask in the AVISynth forum (https://forum.doom9.org/forumdisplay.php?f=33).

Atak_Snajpera
23rd July 2012, 17:59
thats fine can u tell some best denosing filters names
"Best" does not exists...

Ghitulescu
24th July 2012, 09:01
Some people are still living in XVID era ;) Who these days encode to 700MB ??? No. WHO THESE DAYS STORES MOVIES ON CD when we have big portable usb hard-drives?

so why magic 700mb then ????

Maybe because these are the new standards (700 MB for 720p and 400 MB for DVDs) :devil:

Sagittaire
24th July 2012, 09:49
Well I try to make that too and my conclusion is that 700 MB is really too low size for 720p movie in general case.

Actually optimal quality/size with actual codec is:
- 720x400, 848x480 or 1024x576 for "1CD"
- 1280x720 for "2CD"

Atak_Snajpera
24th July 2012, 10:39
Actually optimal quality/size with actual codec is:
- 720x400, 848x480 or 1024x576 for "1CD"
- 1280x720 for "2CD"

It all depends of movie's duration , aspect ratio and movie complexity (more talking heads ,less action).

700MB might be enough only for very static and short movie (less than 90min) in 1280x532 resolution.

@Ghitulescu
LOL. I wonder what does [Team DS] stand for? Team Dark Shikari ? ;)

Sagittaire
24th July 2012, 13:14
It all depends of movie's duration , aspect ratio and movie complexity (more talking heads ,less action).

700MB might be enough only for very static and short movie (less than 90min) in 1280x532 resolution.

@Ghitulescu
LOL. I wonder what does [Team DS] stand for? Team Dark Shikari ? ;)

general case is for [low-complex] interval ... ;-)

kingtmx
24th July 2012, 15:23
Maybe because these are the new standards (700 MB for 720p and 400 MB for DVDs)

yes yes :)

SassBot
24th July 2012, 15:26
yes yes :)

Once again you are missing the fact that someone was being sarcastic... :sly:

Groucho2004
24th July 2012, 17:04
Maybe because these are the new standards (700 MB for 720p and 400 MB for DVDs) :devil:
yes yes :)
Ah, you're bound to the "scene" standards. I wonder why...

kalehrl
24th July 2012, 18:55
I think the "scene rules" are very good for beginners to learn about encoding not only using h264 but xvid as well.
There are many reasonable rules to be found there contained in a single text file.

turab
24th July 2012, 19:12
I think the "scene rules" are very good for beginners to learn about encoding not only using h264 but xvid as well.
There are many reasonable rules to be found there contained in a single text file.
You mean like what file size or bitrate is acceptable or good enough? I disagree. Not only do these things depend on the source, but the viewer as well. I personally don't understand why anyone would aim for 700MiB with a 720p full-length movie because it looks horrible to me, or why 5mbps seems to be another popular choice because half of that is usually more than enough to my eyes. It really isn't difficult to do your own tests and come to a conclusion yourself.

SassBot
24th July 2012, 19:33
I think the "scene rules" are very good for beginners to learn about encoding not only using h264 but xvid as well.
There are many reasonable rules to be found there contained in a single text file.

No, they are pretty terrible rules and often lead people to using bizarre commandline options with x264 that make little to no sense.

Atak_Snajpera
24th July 2012, 19:48
i would be more happy if those pseudo scene experts just start using default x264 settings (--cfr 23 --preset medium) than 2pass with some odd settings

Guest
24th July 2012, 19:59
Guys, this discussion has to stop per rule 6, else the thread will be closed. Thank you.

mvBarracuda
25th July 2012, 09:29
Just use crf encoding and you'll be fine. I would recommend starting with crf 23 and encode clips of a lenght of 180 seconds to get an estimation(!) of the final filesize. Use different crf values until you're happy with the quality/size ratio for your 180s clip. Now that you've found the proper crf value, encode the whole movie with it. Done.

EDIT: divide the size of the 180s clips / 3 and multiply it with the runtime of the movie in minutes to get a rough estimate of the final size. I thought that goes without saying but I've added it nevertheless.